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This should be a sobering view of how the world really works. Above a certain threshold, every veneer of civilization vanishes no matter what the country (some have a higher threshold than others). At this level, only power matters. And the first rule of power is: Don't embarrass the powerful unless you can call on a lot of power to defend yourself. Laws can't protect you; they can be thwarted and bent, and the legal…
"The mood and temper of the public in regard to the treatment of crime and criminals is one of the most unfailing tests of the civilisation of any country." — Winston S. Churchill
https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1910/jul/...
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> none of the “crimes” happened on US soil He is charged with helping Chelsea Manning to hack into a government computer which did happen on US soil. “ they charged him with conspiring to commit unlawful computer intrusion based on his alleged agreement to try to help Ms. Manning break an encoded portion of passcode that would have permitted her to log on to a classified military network under another user’s identity…
> He is charged with helping Chelsea Manning to hack into a government computer which did happen on US soil. IIRC Manning was in Iraq at this time. Were servers they accessed in the US? Probably. But that would be a crime Manning committed.
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are you denying he released the truth or are you saying he released the truth, but "others" behaved similarly yet he withheld the truth on them?
Are you denying that he washed and selectively released Russian propaganda, and also worked with the Trump campaign? So do you believe Seth Rich was murdered then? Edit: roenxi: Spreading the propaganda that Seth Rich was murdered is not "aggressively telling the truth", it's aggressively and mendaciously lying. It's a bit awkward for you to suggest that it's true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich#Wi…
and honestly i can't hold it against assange for being on the lookout or even paranoid about things like that, given his circumstances. being wrong about that simply puts him in the company of a huge section of the political establishment that was promoting the case.
i also don't really care if the source of the leak was a Russian hacker. the damning part is the data was real.
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The media work starts before the trial starts.
... and anybody who's been exposed to it is excluded from the jury. Yes, that means juries are usually composed of uninformed idiots. Lawyers mostly like it that way.
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I suspect Assange does not want to be tortured and murdered and thus does not want this. Are you insane ?
I doubt the US intends to murder him.
Why murder him when he's no threat to them anymore, and they can drag him through more hell for the next decade in order to show what happens when you cross the line?
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If you love America then why would you allow brazen warmongers to put us trillions in debt, profiting immensely while doing so? Do you have any idea how far America's international reputation has fallen? Do you have any conception of the debt that has been incurred in the name of the American taxpayer? Do the lives of millions of dead and tens of millions of displaced people around the world mean nothing to you? Assa…
I don’t see what Assange really showed me that I didn’t know from reading most anything else before his leaks. Your post is highly politically motivated, I’m not emotional about this, just thinking rationally. I agree that the US has overextended its military and is involved in a lot of conflicts and operations that seem very irrelevant and poorly reasoned. I want a revamp of the military industrial complex and a cha…
Your comment is so full of self contradiction I don't know where to start - you want a revamp to the MIC and a change to unaccountable bureaucracy, but don't think Assange has anything to do with that?
... Seriously? You fail to see the connection between accountability for war crimes, and the guy who provided documented evidence for war crimes at great personal sacrifice?
*edited to remove flame, however deserved.
This should be a sobering view of how the world really works. Above a certain threshold, every veneer of civilization vanishes no matter what the country (some have a higher threshold than others). At this level, only power matters. And the first rule of power is: Don't embarrass the powerful unless you can call on a lot of power to defend yourself. Laws can't protect you; they can be thwarted and bent, and the legal…
The most infuriating among all of them has been our media - specifically mainstream media. They have played the entire saga down and in many cases many mainstream media pundits actively espoused for Assanges punishment [1]. I no longer hold the view that our media deserves the first amendment protection that it does. Mainstream media right now has no other purpose other than being active vehicle of the powerful and b…
You can say whatever you want, but you can't charge people for it and you can't lie and pretend you're selling one thing (truth) when you're selling another (self-righteous feelings).
Won't ever happen because the government and media are in bed with one another, but that's what I'd like to see.