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Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Only on Apple hardware though.

No, in fact Mozilla’s hostility to embeddability makes the world’s largest megacorp look positively selfless as a contributor to the FLOSS community: the WebKit devs actually give 2¢ about it and webkit2gtk, and it enables a whole range of cross platform (GNU/* and *BSD) browsers from GNOME Web to suckless surf to luakit.

In terms of non-Apple WebKit browsers, that's about it though. And they're all quite niche in terms of intended audience.

I wish there was a more Firefoxy WebKit browser out there, I'm not going back to a web without Ublock.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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post #38

I can't remember why I moved from Firefox to Brave. I'm curious if I should move back again. Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

Brave promotes a toxic business model centered in killing off internet's advertisement and providing their own in house solution. This is very bad for guaranteeing a healthy competition on the market, it creates an enormous walled garden. Firefox is truly multiplatform, open source, committed to privacy, security and an open web and Mozilla is an authority on these topics. Sure, they're not perfect, but so far they p…

Although I don't wish to participate in it, I find Brave's business model an interesting pro-user take on the problem of a toxic industry. Calling _Brave_ toxic is a weird turnaround of the facts.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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This is silly, but one of the main things I like about Firefox is being able to drag a sizable JSON file on top of it and getting that JSON in treeview, with a search filter. It's convenient out-of-the-box functionality.

I've especially enjoyed this functionality since a very popular JSON Viewer extension on Firefox got taken over by tracking malware and started logging all your history.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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post #121

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No, in fact Mozilla’s hostility to embeddability makes the world’s largest megacorp look positively selfless as a contributor to the FLOSS community: the WebKit devs actually give 2¢ about it and webkit2gtk, and it enables a whole range of cross platform (GNU/* and *BSD) browsers from GNOME Web to suckless surf to luakit.

In terms of non-Apple WebKit browsers, that's about it though. And they're all quite niche in terms of intended audience. I wish there was a more Firefoxy WebKit browser out there, I'm not going back to a web without Ublock.

> they're all quite niche in terms of intended audience

I wouldn’t say that of GNOME Web.

> I'm not going back to a web without Ublock

I do every day (switching between luakit on a laptop and firefox-mobile-config on a smartphone), and IMO a good /etc/hosts is good enough (edit: luakit can also read the same blocklist format as µBlock, though it ignores cosmetic filters).

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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post #95

> We’ve added a User Agent override for Slack.com, which allows Firefox users to use more Call features and have access to Huddles. YES E: Shame on Slack. Three years and counting they haven't fixed this.

MS Teams refuses to do video in browsers except Edge and Chrome, so I have to force Chromium to spoof Chrome UA.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

#126

This is silly, but one of the main things I like about Firefox is being able to drag a sizable JSON file on top of it and getting that JSON in treeview, with a search filter. It's convenient out-of-the-box functionality.

One of my favorite features used to be the built in RSS reader.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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post #105

> We’ve also reduced the power usage of software decoded video on macOS, especially in fullscreen. This includes streaming sites such as Netflix and Amazon Prime Video. Thank god. This has been a real problem.

I wonder why hardware decoding isn't used for those sites though.

The Widevine CDM is responsible for decoding the video, and on desktop platforms so far only software-based DRM is supported, though they're planning to introduce hardware DRM for Widevine on desktop soon, which would enable higher quality streaming and possibly also hardware acceleration.

So far they're only planning to support this on Windows 10 and above, maybe macOS support will come at a later date, but Linux users will almost certainly be left in the dust, considering they already don't support VMP (Verified Media Path) on Linux, resulting in many streaming services limiting video quality to SD or blocking streaming on Linux altogether.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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post #58

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They removed one of the ways you could get to it: from the right-click context menu. You can still use the keyboard shortcut or add it to the toolbar. (Yes, it was disappointing to see it removed for no good reason)

Yeah and then a few updates later their holy telemetry tells them nobody uses it anymore (makes sense as it's much harder to find) and it gets cut. It goes like this a lot. They listen too much to telemetry. Especially because a significant part of their userbase will turn it off.

This is exactly the issue with telemetry, it's a vicious cycle. Most power users will turn it off because it's "spyware", so the only telemetry they get is from average users who don't even know the feature exists, which leads to them removing useful features, so in its current state it's practically useless for actual measurements and only ends up hurting things.

That's why I don't like when there's a blind hate mob against telemetry, because it can be legitimately useful for developers. People should focus on voicing actual privacy concerns and trying to get them addressed rather than completely rejecting any form of telemetry no matter how anonymous they try to make it.

But on the other hand, Mozilla should be well aware that a large majority of their user base probably turns off telemetry (I'm not sure if there's any telemetry sent back that says "user turned off telemetry", maybe not because some people are outraged even by that, but regardless they should know that) and not arbitrarily remove features that are "unused" when their sample is not representative. I highly doubt a feature like this causes a huge maintainance burden that necessitates removing it.

I'm not entirely sure what kind of data Mozilla's telemetry collects, so I'm just more talking in general and not claiming that it's fully anonymous and there's no reason to be concerned at all. You should definitely be allowed to opt out (or maybe even make it opt-in - that does reduce the sample size even further but maybe if they showed trustworthiness then more people would be inclined to opt in), but IMO we need to find some solution that benefits both sides.

The only other alternative I see is having some sort of forum where they make discussions/polls to ask users about how much they use certain features. But that requires active user effort and I imagine a lot of people couldn't be bothered to do it. Shoving surveys in users' faces would just annoy them, but not advertising it would result in a lot of people not knowing about it and missing out on an opportunity to vouch for their favorite feature because they weren't part of the discussion.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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post #95

> We’ve added a User Agent override for Slack.com, which allows Firefox users to use more Call features and have access to Huddles. YES E: Shame on Slack. Three years and counting they haven't fixed this.

I thought it was standard knowledge that if you need a specific Web API or JavaScript feature, you explicitly test for it, rather than making assumptions based on the user agent.

I thought it was standard knowledge that Slack doesn't care about their in-browser experience :P

Seriously, though, Slack is easily among the worst apps I've used in browser. On Safari I have a mountain of issues, including one where it grays out every message it sends and then shows them twice. On FF they flat out didn't support calls and huddles until FF called their bluff on it, and even on Chrome I've had missed notifications^. It's almost like they deliberately make it worse so you have to download their app - which also just runs in a browser.

^: Incidentally, for a work focused messaging platform, Slack has had the worst notification misses for me. They also don't clear notifs on mobile if you see the message on desktop and vice versa. Discord and WhatsApp - both platforms for casual use - are way better.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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post #49

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> I'm aware that there are other independent, open-source browser-engines available, I'm not aware of any others that are equally usable as an everyday browser for ordinary users though. Safari is both usable for everyday users and is used every day by more than those that use Firefox, which means WebKit is a viable alternative to Blink.

WebKit hardly qualifies as independent from an ecosystem health standpoint, though... GP was probably referring more to efforts like WebSurf.

> efforts like WebSurf

I guess this is a reference to the browser that's actually called NetSurf? Or maybe not?

It's not clear, either, what the statement that "WebKit hardly qualifies as independent from an ecosystem health standpoint, though" means.

Overall, this comment is very confusing.

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