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Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by mdaniel »

claviska wrote: post #109
newsbinator wrote: post #28

This is silly, but one of the main things I like about Firefox is being able to drag a sizable JSON file on top of it and getting that JSON in treeview, with a search filter. It's convenient out-of-the-box functionality.

This is fantastic. I’ve always wondered why browsers don’t show HTML, CSS, and JS source with syntax highlighting, bracket matching, and other basic dev tools features. You are, after all, viewing the source.

It's one of the reasons I have Firefox Nightly on Android: it still honors the "view-source:https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=29480749" protocol allowing me to look in the page sources on mobile. Naturally, Firefox does this on desktop, too, but that's expected. The "normal" Firefox for Android used to do that, but it also used to let people install extensions as if they owned the phone, but that era is over

So while not "bracket matching," it does have syntax highlighting and often it will even highlight bogus HTML in red

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by newscracker »

technobabbler wrote: post #96
dangus wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only reason it "dies" is because people aren't using it. By using it, you help it to not "die." By using Firefox you show web developers that they need to support you as a user, or risk losing your business. That in turn makes Mozilla influential.

People flocked from Netscape to IE because it was better. People flocked from IE to Phoenix/early Firefox because it was better. People flocked from Firefox to Chrome because it was better. People aren't flocking from Chrome back to Firefox because Firefox has gotten worse while Chrome has gotten better. Why would I use something that most of the web doesn't support, is full of crapvertising, doesn't work seamlessly…

> People flocked from Firefox to Chrome because it was better.

This part isn’t entirely true. One large and influential reason why people switched to Chrome was because every Google search result page and many other pages on Google properties heavily and prominently advertised Chrome. Chrome was also bundled with some other third party software. Chrome may have been better in its initial years than Firefox, but that wasn’t the main trigger for people to switch.

For most people, the default browser installed with their OS is what they’d use unless they’re sold another browser or they know that another browser is what works for them.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by GekkePrutser »

up6w6 wrote: post #94

One thing that shocked me was discovering that Firefox encrypts the saved passwords but doesn't (and won't) encrypt the cookies database at all. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1259652

Wow that's indeed bad. They should at least make it optional.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by GekkePrutser »

Glench wrote: post #105

> We’ve also reduced the power usage of software decoded video on macOS, especially in fullscreen. This includes streaming sites such as Netflix and Amazon Prime Video. Thank god. This has been a real problem.

I wonder why hardware decoding isn't used for those sites though.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by GekkePrutser »

wenc wrote: post #33
bovermyer wrote: post #6

I can't remember why I moved from Firefox to Brave. I'm curious if I should move back again. Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

I moved from Chrome to Firefox a year ago, because: 1) Multi-account containers - open each tab in an isolated container with its own session cookies etc. Use case? Login to multiple Google/Azure/AWS/etc accounts at the same time on different tabs. This is a game-changer if you have to login to multiple cloud accounts because you work for a multinational and each subsidiary you support is on a different tenant. 2) Fi…

Yeah https://business.apple.com is an example of a site that explicitly blocks Firefox. If it was just some indie web dev with no time to spare i could understand...

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by GekkePrutser »

technobabbler wrote: post #96
dangus wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only reason it "dies" is because people aren't using it. By using it, you help it to not "die." By using Firefox you show web developers that they need to support you as a user, or risk losing your business. That in turn makes Mozilla influential.

People flocked from Netscape to IE because it was better. People flocked from IE to Phoenix/early Firefox because it was better. People flocked from Firefox to Chrome because it was better. People aren't flocking from Chrome back to Firefox because Firefox has gotten worse while Chrome has gotten better. Why would I use something that most of the web doesn't support, is full of crapvertising, doesn't work seamlessly…

The ads is just Firefox trying to become independent from the Google money flow. I don't like it either but at least they're not tracking.

They should just charge a fiver a month for Firefox Sync IMO. It's a valuable feature. I have no need for pocket and VPN.

But the web works just fine on FF. I have no issues with it save for the odd site that just blocks it. If I ever have problems it's always due to my extensive adblocking.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by GekkePrutser »

acdha wrote: post #58
authed wrote: post #50

Which version did they remove the cool screenshot feature? seems like they just added it.... (you could easily take a screenshot of the whole page) Edit: Looks like Firefox 88 only moved the feature: https://techdows.com/2021/03/firefox-88-removes-screenshot-o... I wonder what useless/detrimental move they made this time I remember when they removed the right-click View Image not long ago... luckily there's an add-on…

They removed one of the ways you could get to it: from the right-click context menu. You can still use the keyboard shortcut or add it to the toolbar. (Yes, it was disappointing to see it removed for no good reason)

Yeah and then a few updates later their holy telemetry tells them nobody uses it anymore (makes sense as it's much harder to find) and it gets cut.

It goes like this a lot. They listen too much to telemetry. Especially because a significant part of their userbase will turn it off.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by [deleted] »

deadbunny wrote: post #89
cxr wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm aware that there are other independent, open-source browser-engines available, I'm not aware of any others that are equally usable as an everyday browser for ordinary users though. Safari is both usable for everyday users and is used every day by more than those that use Firefox, which means WebKit is a viable alternative to Blink.

Only on Apple hardware though.

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Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by [deleted] »

nofunsir wrote: post #54
newsbinator wrote: post #28

This is silly, but one of the main things I like about Firefox is being able to drag a sizable JSON file on top of it and getting that JSON in treeview, with a search filter. It's convenient out-of-the-box functionality.

Not silly. Just yesterday I used it myself the exact same way. Couldn’t even get VS Code or Sublime to do it without random plugins. Firefox, aka Mozilla JSON tree viewer.

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Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by boogies »

deadbunny wrote: post #89
cxr wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm aware that there are other independent, open-source browser-engines available, I'm not aware of any others that are equally usable as an everyday browser for ordinary users though. Safari is both usable for everyday users and is used every day by more than those that use Firefox, which means WebKit is a viable alternative to Blink.

Only on Apple hardware though.

No, in fact Mozilla’s hostility to embeddability makes the world’s largest megacorp look positively selfless as a contributor to the FLOSS community: the WebKit devs actually give 2¢ about it and webkit2gtk, and it enables a whole range of cross platform (GNU/* and *BSD) browsers from GNOME Web to suckless surf to luakit.
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