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Firefox 95 Released

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Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by foxrider »

streptomycin wrote: post #7
Nextgrid wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder why they bother with user-agents in the first place. It's more of a fingerprinting vector than anything else, especially considering Firefox's browser marketshare. Just hardcode it to Chrome's once and for all.

Sometimes browsers have bugs that cannot be identified with feature detection, in which case the user agent is all we have to know when to work around those bugs.

I feel like with the modern rate of browser development by the time you have identified and fixed the bug the fix may no longer be relevant

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by therios »

giords wrote: post #38
bovermyer wrote: post #6

I can't remember why I moved from Firefox to Brave. I'm curious if I should move back again. Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

Brave promotes a toxic business model centered in killing off internet's advertisement and providing their own in house solution. This is very bad for guaranteeing a healthy competition on the market, it creates an enormous walled garden. Firefox is truly multiplatform, open source, committed to privacy, security and an open web and Mozilla is an authority on these topics. Sure, they're not perfect, but so far they p…

"Brave promotes a toxic business model centered in killing off internet's advertisement and providing their own in house solution. This is very bad for guaranteeing a healthy competition on the market, it creates an enormous walled garden."

So has anyone using an Adblock in the past 20 years. Also what do Ads have to do with market competition? And what is "toxic" about having a browser that promotes alternative revenue models?

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by jlkuester7 »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #25
Someone1234 wrote: post #3

Nice iterative release with mostly cross-platform security and MacOS specific performance improvements. I wonder if there is any benefit to Windows Store Vs. installer setups (e.g. does the update process change)?

System-wide tools like Homebrew and Chocolatey are nice because they allow you to decide to update everything on your system when you've fucked off and it doesn't cost you any time while your machine chews away - without the loss of control and rights "stores" represent. Also, agreed - the MacOS performance improvements will be most welcome (I'm waiting on a de-Mozilla'd derivative to update.)

+1 https://scoop.sh/ is pretty much the first thing I ever install on a Windows computer and then I use that to load up everything else.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

#54

Post by nofunsir »

newsbinator wrote: post #28

This is silly, but one of the main things I like about Firefox is being able to drag a sizable JSON file on top of it and getting that JSON in treeview, with a search filter. It's convenient out-of-the-box functionality.

Not silly. Just yesterday I used it myself the exact same way. Couldn’t even get VS Code or Sublime to do it without random plugins.

Firefox, aka Mozilla JSON tree viewer.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by nonameiguess »

perihelions wrote: post #17
frankjr wrote: post #2

> We’ve added a User Agent override for Slack.com, which allows Firefox users to use more Call features and have access to Huddles. So now `window.navigator.vendor` returns "Google Inc." if your URL matches ` ://app.slack.com/ `. LOL. https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/eea0fac2cb8cae1e5a...

There's a list of UA overrides and other hardcoded website patches in about:compat.

The things you learn. The damn CDC Covid tracker won't open in Firefox. It feels like not following open standards for cross compatibility is a dereliction of duty for government agencies, let alone the official tracking app during a pandemic.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by mthoms »

giords wrote: post #38
bovermyer wrote: post #6

I can't remember why I moved from Firefox to Brave. I'm curious if I should move back again. Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

Brave promotes a toxic business model centered in killing off internet's advertisement and providing their own in house solution. This is very bad for guaranteeing a healthy competition on the market, it creates an enormous walled garden. Firefox is truly multiplatform, open source, committed to privacy, security and an open web and Mozilla is an authority on these topics. Sure, they're not perfect, but so far they p…

I'd argue the worse "toxic business model" is the advertising model you're advocating for. I'm not saying Brave's solution is correct, but I'm glad someone is at least trying something different.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

bovermyer wrote: post #6

I can't remember why I moved from Firefox to Brave. I'm curious if I should move back again. Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

never got into Brave because I found their growth-hacking techniques to piggyback on gullible crypto-bros coin-peddling highly questionable, perhaps even predatory if you get randos believe that they can earn money by clicking on ads. https://twitter.com/NoNameGladiator/status/12589167028063682...

they disappeared from my radar the moment they mentioned tokens.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by acdha »

authed wrote: post #50

Which version did they remove the cool screenshot feature? seems like they just added it.... (you could easily take a screenshot of the whole page) Edit: Looks like Firefox 88 only moved the feature: https://techdows.com/2021/03/firefox-88-removes-screenshot-o... I wonder what useless/detrimental move they made this time I remember when they removed the right-click View Image not long ago... luckily there's an add-on…

They removed one of the ways you could get to it: from the right-click context menu. You can still use the keyboard shortcut or add it to the toolbar.

(Yes, it was disappointing to see it removed for no good reason)

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by Lammy »

bovermyer wrote: post #6

I can't remember why I moved from Firefox to Brave. I'm curious if I should move back again. Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

> Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

It's open source Free Software so if you try it and don't like it you can switch back with no loss? Personally I've never used anything but Mozilla since the days of the Suite 1.0 milestones, through Camino (RIP) on OS X, through Firefox today. Nothing else has as nice a UI as Firefox + Tree Style Tab https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by TimTheTinker »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #43
perihelions wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a list of UA overrides and other hardcoded website patches in about:compat.

Wow, what a collection of hacks. It reminds me of the efforts Microsoft goes to so that old programs keep working on Windows.

I think in both cases it was less hack and more getting around browser sniffing code that makes outdated or incorrect assumptions.

Please don't browser-sniff, use feature detection instead. The web platform is standards-driven, not browser-driven -- let's keep it that way :)

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