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YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by jug »

101008 wrote: post #53

I know losing a YouTube channel is horrible, especially after you dedicated so much time, effort and money - and for some people it may be a source of income as well. It is totally unfair. But my nightmare in here is that you lose access to your whole Google account and that would devastate me. Not only email access (and thus, access to every service I use because I have my Google account linked to it), but also Goog…

I've thought about the same. I rely on Google too much. But "too much" is really only e-mail and cloud storage (Google Drive) for me. I only rely on cloud hosting for photos for a select few albums I intentionally want to share a link to, not as a full cloud of all my photos that I then rely on being there. I offload my phone and camera every now and then to local storage (NAS) at home, a hard drive in a safe deposit box at my bank, and then my Synology NAS runs an automated Backblaze backup which is very cost efficient for this use.

So I would only really need to switch

1) my mail provider to something else, which is easier today now that I rely on "messengers" more than mail, so not many people that I need to inform. Just subscriptions and account details that I can update one at a time.

2) cloud storage to something else, and there are oceans of alternatives there, many very capable.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by peteradio »

s_dev wrote: post #121
adamdonahue wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an opportunity here. Put the video on both YouTube and a blockchain, make it easy to find on the latter via the YouTube URI, then when one discovers a non-working link you YouTube you can pivot to the blockchain-based backup. Once enough people know about this hack it then, with a browser plug-in, censorship be gone! This is obviously off-the-cuff, undetailed thinking here, but an approach like this might mak…

How does a YouTube 404 turn in to a working link? You don't control what You Tube displays on their 404.

Maybe get a mechanism of law passed which makes it difficult for platforms to sweep content from view in cases of changes of moderation. If youtube decies Charlie Bit Me is violent and they know longer wish host it, then they must provide some sort of redirect if video owner provides. I don't know?

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by pixl97 »

ThalesX wrote: post #92
throwaway82931 wrote: post #28

It's terrifying that the punishments are so draconian (because one false move and you lose access to the entire Google account, and possibly become persona non-grata and lose the ability to create another one even in a company context), it's hard to understand what the rules are, the appeals process generally won't help, and even being a paying customer won't save you. It seems like best practice for any professional…

I once got a new phone number and I tried to register to Twitter; apparently it's already used, by an account that is banned. I managed to login to the account but there is no way to ask what's up. I followed the procedures, even wrote them an e-mail that as a EU citizen, I'd want them to forget anything related to me and my phone number. No reply. Still probably doesn't work, don't care all that much though. Wasn't…

Twitter is great isn't it...

"We need your phone number to post"

short time later

"We have leaked your phone number linked to your account to the entire planet"

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by mypastself »

s_dev wrote: post #121
adamdonahue wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an opportunity here. Put the video on both YouTube and a blockchain, make it easy to find on the latter via the YouTube URI, then when one discovers a non-working link you YouTube you can pivot to the blockchain-based backup. Once enough people know about this hack it then, with a browser plug-in, censorship be gone! This is obviously off-the-cuff, undetailed thinking here, but an approach like this might mak…

How does a YouTube 404 turn in to a working link? You don't control what You Tube displays on their 404.

Presumably with the browser plugin. This would of course require all your users installing it.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by hutzlibu »

necovek wrote: post #89
hutzlibu wrote: post #20

Personally I surely would not want to go that route, but maybe suing(or the threat of it) helps, if you know a trustworthy lawyer? I would imagine just a letter from a lawyer stating the facts of the incident would be enough to get real attention from google. I mean, you pay for a service - they just canceled without further explanation. Shouldn't there be some rights left for normal people? Otherwise yes, your story…

Perhaps you need to mention suing/lawyer in your original response to avoid your plea being automatically rejected.

That might be worth to give it a try.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by reginold »

dandare wrote: post #65

> I am a paid Youtube Music subscriber The saying goes that if you don't paid for it then you are the product. So I subscribed to YouTube Music family plan, thinking I won't be the product. But my wife's account will always return an error saying that she is in a different country or something. I tried to reach the support for help but never got any reply. In the end I cancelled the subscription. Google is simply too…

yeah thats the tricky thing. Google makes $256/user per year domestically in ad revenue. That's $21/month.

https://mondaynote.com/the-arpus-of-the-big-four-dwarf-every...

it's really hard not to be the product.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by steve_g »

throwaway82931 wrote: post #107
giansegato wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could be remunerated. Like: pay 100$ to have a human look at your case. You can appeal (and pay) up to 3 times. This would partially solve the scalability problem + provide partial disincentives for scammers and spammers. I would happily pay 100$ to recover my lost Google account. Of course this would in turn create the bad incentive of having Google not create good models. Ideally the law would require to cap pri…

That's one option. Another would be that you need to pay for your service on a monthly basis. Some way that for a user to have faith in the appeals process and purchase peace of mind. Just knowing that a backstop is there would help a great deal.

He says he's a subscriber to YouTube music. So he is paying.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by junon »

JohnWhigham wrote: post #114
EvanAnderson wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it my problem that a fair moderation process must be cost-effective for Google, et. al.? Edit: Google's profit margins aren't my problem. If they want to be such a big, all-encompassing force in the "digital lives" of individuals they need to be held to account with fair policies for dealing with Customers. If that creates an untenable business for them they can either innovate in a manner that results in a fa…

Because they're a business, and that's how businesses are run?

So ignoring your customers after they've paid you money is something we should just throw into the bin of "that's just business, folks"?
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