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A hugely important addendum: Steam is owned by Valve, which is not a publicly traded company . GabeN's private hat empire can do whatever it wants.
This feels like a positive, to me. After watching so much quarterly profit chasing races to the bottom across so many aspects of the economy.
Huhhh, I'm a huge epic games fan, I've used UE4 for years prior... but having to download another "steam" client for DRMs makes it a huge turn off. I don't need another launcher agent on my computer for your auto-update telemetry loving nonsense, for trying out a game I might not even like!
it's like gamers WANT a monopoly. I do not understand capital-G Gamers, man. they're a very silly lot.
Nothing much more than that really.
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EGS still doesn't have a cart?! IMO it speaks to a disturbing implication of priorities on the part of EGS. The concept of a cart isn't exactly groundbreaking in ecommerce, and its absence suggests to me that the store's primary purpose isn't to easily allow humans to purchase games.
I respectfully disagree. I'd bet a large amount of money that an overwhelming amount of video-game purchases on Steam etc. are single-item purchases - that is, in the vast majority of cases, adding a cart doesn't help the user experience (and, without the presence of a one-click-add-and-checkout button, actually slightly harms it by adding another step in the purchase flow). So, for most users/use-cases, a cart is mu…
>"The absence of a cart implies that EGS are not prioritizing making it easy to purchase games"
Despite your use of quotes, I didn't write that. I said "its absence suggests to me that the store's primary purpose isn't to easily allow humans to purchase games", which is entirely different. Don't put words into others' mouths, or don't feign respect.
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That's all well and good, and if you like EGS, that's your prerogative. My response is to a question of why people don't like EGS. The point is not even that Steam is better (it is); instead the point is that nobody likes to be forced to use a platform they don't prefer, and this is made especially onerous when the forced platform is so very, very inferior.
> My response is to a question of why people _don't_ like EGS Yep, and you communicated that very well, and I appreciate it - thank you! Apologies for giving the impression that I was disagreeing with you - I was giving another perspective, while recognizing that I'm in the minority and that your points are valid.
Huhhh, I'm a huge epic games fan, I've used UE4 for years prior... but having to download another "steam" client for DRMs makes it a huge turn off. I don't need another launcher agent on my computer for your auto-update telemetry loving nonsense, for trying out a game I might not even like!
it's like gamers WANT a monopoly. I do not understand capital-G Gamers, man. they're a very silly lot.
What is with people and not wanting to install EGS on their pcs? Is it just the hip thing to do, they've seen it plastered all over reddit so they've decided to jump on board? It's another game store... they have 1-2 free games every single week, and they're not junk games. Get the free games on the website and when you come around to installing it someday you'll have a huge library. There was backlash against Steam…
I really really hate what Epic does. No one wants to use their store, so they pay for games to appear exclusively. I hate this so much for certain games I'll just buy it on console.
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Because it's a terrible client with virtually no features, yet their business tactics strongarm players into using it. Nobody likes to be forced to use a certain product. EGS doesn't even offer a fraction of what Steam can do. Here's what I can come up with off the top of my head; I'm sure others can chime in with more. Steam has a robust marketplace, with user reviews and a slew of sorting and shopping cart features…
(Not the person you're replying to) These are all reasonable complaints! I, personally, barely care about _any_ of them (in particular, I don't think I've ever read a review on Steam, I almost-never play multiplayer or modded games, and I would hate to stream my games), so, for me, Epic is exactly as fully-featured as Steam is - but these are reasonable reasons why other people might feel a gap. (EDIT: in particular,…
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I really really hate what Epic does. No one wants to use their store, so they pay for games to appear exclusively. I hate this so much for certain games I'll just buy it on console.
Console manufacturers do the same thing...
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Natural monopolies are fine; coercive monopolies are not. As long as Valve offers a better product/service at a cheaper cost than their competition and that's why they have a monopoly, then there is nothing wrong with that.
The people that you want to hear from are the developers of the games that Valve sells through Steam. And you probably won't hear from them about their experience. And that might cause you to wonder why.