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Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by ValentineC »

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #84
achairapart wrote: post #34

Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, Google Music or whatever now is called. I tried them all. They are all the same to me. There is one big thing that all these streaming services are missing: *METADATA* Give me all the album by this label, all the songs produced by X or all the songs where in Y plays drums. All the albums recorded at some studio in the year Z. With tools like this I will spend years (and whatever money) on…

please god, do not buy out discogs and leave it the hell alone. i already stopped last.fm after CBS ruined it. I've used every music service and quit for a multitude of reasons. Libraries that "have everything" but manage to be missing albums or have albums takne down all the time, "shuffle" functions that don't work (Spotify), apps that prioritize and shove music in your face that you have no interest in (Tidal), or…

Have you checked out MusicBrainz [1] as an alternative for Discogs?

They're run by a non-profit [2], which is worth supporting, and a bit hard to "buy out".

[1] https://musicbrainz.org/

[2] https://metabrainz.org/

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by ryanobjc »

echelon wrote: post #28
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

The degradation of Google Play Music into YouTube Music has to be one of the most disappointing product merges in history. All of the power functionality disappeared. I can't even find the music I want anymore without great effort. As a consequence, I'm listening to my favorite artists less frequently, and haven't even thought about concerts, festivals, albums, etc. A dumb but rich tabular music + metadata store woul…

itunes match is what you want.

You can upload your own music to the cloud, and whatever matches existing ones just matches to the itunes store so you dont actually have to upload everything - this is the 'match' in the 'itunes match'.

And it's $25/year.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by shrikant »

sorenjan wrote: post #120
erdaltoprak wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I was trying to explain that in the blog post too, in Apple Music your own added songs are uploaded and act as any other streaming song and I think it’s pretty amazing, also the fact that your song now has all the inherited features like Siri/Spotlight search!

I don't use Apple music myself, but I've heard that it doesn't actually use your songs but uses song name matching which sometimes gives you censored versions of explicit songs. Is this true? I remember when I used Google Play Music and it kept the AOL sound in "my" copy of a certain Tatu song, so that was definitely streaming the uploaded song.

Well, I'm pretty sure GPM did some level of acoustic matching nonsense to optimise storage or bandwidth, because it changed a bunch of songs that I'd uploaded into a different language version of song.

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Post by elzbardico »

isolli wrote: post #78
achairapart wrote: post #34

Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, Google Music or whatever now is called. I tried them all. They are all the same to me. There is one big thing that all these streaming services are missing: *METADATA* Give me all the album by this label, all the songs produced by X or all the songs where in Y plays drums. All the albums recorded at some studio in the year Z. With tools like this I will spend years (and whatever money) on…

There are such niche services for classical music. For instance, idagio.com is really excellent with metadata. You see e.g. all works by a performer or all performers of a work.

Hey man. Thanks, just subscribed. Classic music experience always sucked on modern apps. This is the first one that does it right.

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Post by littlecranky67 »

LgWoodenBadger wrote: post #82
rsync wrote: post #56

Apple Music is library focused if you have very simple requirements and if your "library" was created, or coincident with, the iTunes ecosystem. The OP notes "Folder based navigation" and "... Folder based playlists" but note the use of the word "folder" and not "directory". Take a look at this dialog box: https://www.tech-recipes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/itun... ... and note all of the fine-grained ways to sor…

Help me understand how filename is useful in a way that other metadata doesn’t already cover, please.

Somewhat niche, but in the electronic music genre (house, techno, trance etc.) albums and single tracks are a rare thing. People mostly listen and consume DJ livesets/-mixes, and using filenames & folders to organize is basically the way to go. It is very difficult to come up with any sane metadata system, let alone that all music players are unable to cope with that kind of music collection. Public metadata databases like Musicbrainz etc. are not a thing there, and sets are usually not commercially sold - so all metadata would also have to be manually entered.

In case anybody wonders about the (legal) sourcing, in most parts of Europe it is still perfectly legal to record radio stations, locally download from Youtube/Soundcloud etc. and even share/copy with close friends and family. And the market for livemixes is huge in the youtube era, see productions from Cercle, Boiler Room etc.

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Post by brundolf »

standardUser wrote: post #103
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

Google Play was ideal because I could upload any of my own music and it was part of my library, accessible anywhere in the world. Does any service like that still exist? I'm stuck with Spotify, which lacks dozens and dozens of albums that are important to me, and it won't let me upload them myself.

I put my personal collection on Dropbox and use an app (iOS) called TuneBox that presents it as a streaming music player

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by loudtieblahblah »

ValentineC wrote: post #121
loudtieblahblah wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

please god, do not buy out discogs and leave it the hell alone. i already stopped last.fm after CBS ruined it. I've used every music service and quit for a multitude of reasons. Libraries that "have everything" but manage to be missing albums or have albums takne down all the time, "shuffle" functions that don't work (Spotify), apps that prioritize and shove music in your face that you have no interest in (Tidal), or…

Have you checked out MusicBrainz [1] as an alternative for Discogs? They're run by a non-profit [2], which is worth supporting, and a bit hard to "buy out". [1] https://musicbrainz.org/ [2] https://metabrainz.org/

I, mainly, use Discogs more as a trading platform for vinyl. The fact their meta-data db is phenomenal is an added bonus
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