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Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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There's something sad to me about the verge article that's linked inside of the hn post (https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-direc...)

There's often a trope that young people are good with computers, but I think this is mostly false. Here some (maybe significant percentage) of college freshman don't know how to save a file?

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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I ripped my Apple Music library and switched to Plex (listening via plexamp - also looked at Jellyfin with finamp) because I thought Apple music was pushing music completely outside of my tastes (and particularly American centric) and was becoming too antagonistic to personalization and libraries.

I think I prefer finding music and musicians 'the hard way'. When you have 'everything' the urge to find new things disappears at least in my opinion. I now buy a lot of music, mostly on bandcamp and I even subscribe to a few artists monthly. I find this experience far more rewarding but to each there own.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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This is exactly why I started using Apple Music. Some of my music collection isn’t on streaming platforms but Apple Music let’s me host it and stream it in a library right alongside music I don’t “own”. I also generally like the paradigm of being able to collect streamed music into a library so I can come back to things again and again. Back when I last used Spotify around 2015 I used the starred playlist to do this…

This is why I use Bandcamp. I don’t trust apple not to change the deal at some point. Where as with band camp I actually own things.

What I love most about Bandcamp is that you can download your music in lossless compression (ALAC/FLAC). It beats lossy compressions every time with the headphones I use.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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post #4

Music-as-a-Service is fantastic as a convenience, and I too have discovered a lot of great music this way, but (a) I all the time want to listen to a record and find it missing from their catalogs; and (b) as with so much else on the web, I'm so over the constant minor psychological drag of knowing that my interactions are being tracked, logged, and gamed.

> psychological drag of knowing that my interactions are being tracked, logged

Remember last.fm? We used to track music listens very deliberately to share with the public… Back in the day I had a "minor psychological drag" whenever I listened to something without scrobbling :D

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy DRM free files from Apple. So the file is yours, transferrable, but you also can always go back and get another copy from Apple. The combination of the iTunes Store, Apple Music, and iTunes Match is the most expansive music service offering I can think of.

Not from Apple Music though? I thought it's rent only. iTunes sells files, yes. I still prefer stores that sell FLAC. Apple's aversion to common open audio formats always irritated me.

Apple Music is DRM yes (it can be de-DRMed though fairly easily), purchased music from iTunes is DRM free.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Apple Music is library focused if you have very simple requirements and if your "library" was created, or coincident with, the iTunes ecosystem.

The OP notes "Folder based navigation" and "... Folder based playlists" but note the use of the word "folder" and not "directory".

Take a look at this dialog box:

https://www.tech-recipes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/itun...

... and note all of the fine-grained ways to sort by ... but also note that the most basic attribute of all (filename) is missing.

I am not sure for whom iTunes and its interface is optimized for but I do know that any sane way I could imagine of moving my music onto an iPhone is totally impossible.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the features of "iTunes Match" are included in Apple Music as long as you have "Sync Library" turned on. For a while there was a subtle difference in that music uploaded to Apple Music would have DRM applied to it, and iTunes Match would not, but this is no longer the case.

Is DRM applied to iTunes Match too now? That's unfortunate.

iTunes Match is a subscription service, right?

Buying individual tracks or entire albums from the iTunes Store gets you DRM-free music files. No?

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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post #3

The more I use a streaming music service like Spotify, the more new music I find, but the shorter my musical memory becomes.

I put music I like in playlists that I listen to in reverse order by date added. As a result, I form pretty strong associations between my playlist songs and times in my life, down to about the week.

It’s pretty cool being able to scroll through my playlists and essentially have a journal of memories.

I assume no one else does this, because relatively few services consistently enable that kind of sort, and none that I’m aware of allow you to edit the “date added” field in the playlist data.

(This is a disguised plea for help and/or for Apple Music engineers to enable editing of playlist data - I won’t switch services if it means losing my memory journal/playlist)

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy DRM free files from Apple. So the file is yours, transferrable, but you also can always go back and get another copy from Apple. The combination of the iTunes Store, Apple Music, and iTunes Match is the most expansive music service offering I can think of.

Not from Apple Music though? I thought it's rent only. iTunes sells files, yes. I still prefer stores that sell FLAC. Apple's aversion to common open audio formats always irritated me.

Apple Music is the streaming service.

The iTunes Store is the "purchase the file" store.

The iTunes Store sells M4A, which is a common open audio format.

The iTunes Store does not, however, sell lossless files, as far as I know. Apple Lossless (ALAC) is only available when streaming from Apple Music.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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post #37

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

It's really a weird merge, I browse youtube and I see the music I like from Youtube Music there because musics are somehow fetched from YT and not from a different place ( like it was on Google music ). It seems that if the music is officialy available on Youtube, Youtube Music fetch the music from there, if not it's using an internal catalog.

And vice versa - I'll try to look through my playlists, and I get a mix of my music ones, and my YouTube ones. Just a baffling design choice.
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