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Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Post by achairapart »

joshvm wrote: post #45
achairapart wrote: post #34

Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, Google Music or whatever now is called. I tried them all. They are all the same to me. There is one big thing that all these streaming services are missing: *METADATA* Give me all the album by this label, all the songs produced by X or all the songs where in Y plays drums. All the albums recorded at some studio in the year Z. With tools like this I will spend years (and whatever money) on…

I understand Spotify actually has an advanced search (including range queries, lyric match and metadata like labels) but it's not documented well and the app itself doesn't present any options to the user. https://support.spotify.com/us/article/search/

Interesting! I never heard about those advanced search tags, at least there's something.

Thanks!

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Post by _jal »

heavyset_go wrote: post #36
andrewla wrote: post #16

Google Play Music was extremely album-focused, but their move over to YouTube Music has basically scrapped that. GPM even let you modify the metadata for albums; I had used this to strip out things like "(2020 Remaster Special Gold Edition)" from album names, and to cut "bonus" tracks off of albums (nothing as fun as playing an album and then getting a two hour long spoken word interview with Quincy Jones), and final…

YouTube Music is the reason I moved over to self-hosted Jellyfin to host my music collection.

To anyone else who still wants to own their own music, I highly recommend looking at Jriver Media Center. Not free, and it is a bit of a strange application at first. But I find it extremely capable and flexible, and because it is just a player, they have an interest in catering to you instead of the copyright rentiers.

I use it with my main stereo and stream music to network players in other rooms. (It does video stuff too, I don't use any of that.)

No connection to them other than as a happy customer. https://jriver.com/

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Post by hateful »

gonehome wrote: post #51

There's something sad to me about the verge article that's linked inside of the hn post ( https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-direc... ) There's often a trope that young people are good with computers, but I think this is mostly false. Here some (maybe significant percentage) of college freshman don't know how to save a file?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28615884

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Post by shmerl »

etchalon wrote: post #59
shmerl wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not from Apple Music though? I thought it's rent only. iTunes sells files, yes. I still prefer stores that sell FLAC. Apple's aversion to common open audio formats always irritated me.

Apple Music is the streaming service. The iTunes Store is the "purchase the file" store. The iTunes Store sells M4A, which is a common open audio format. The iTunes Store does not, however, sell lossless files, as far as I know. Apple Lossless (ALAC) is only available when streaming from Apple Music.

I prefer to buy lossless formats. For playback I can encode them in Opus. M4A is not a proper open format, it's patent encumbered.

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Post by etchalon »

OldHand2018 wrote: post #64
jjcon wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Music is DRM yes (it can be de-DRMed though fairly easily), purchased music from iTunes is DRM free.

I guess it's not just me: It is confusing. I thought there were two ways to get music from Apple but apparently there are at least 3. One of which gives you re-downloadable DRM-free files.

There's only two ways. Apple Music (streaming) and iTunes Store.

iTunes Match lets you "upload" your library to Apple. It matches your library against Apple's catalog. If they have the song, you get a copy of their version of the song. If it doesn't have a match, they retain your uploaded file.

I have a lot of random local music that isn't on iTunes, and which you can't easily find anymore. For years, I was paranoid about losing my ripped copies of the files, but iTunes Match has preserved them for me, in the cloud, for years now.

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Post by [deleted] »

grumpyprole wrote: post #23
etchalon wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy DRM free files from Apple. So the file is yours, transferrable, but you also can always go back and get another copy from Apple. The combination of the iTunes Store, Apple Music, and iTunes Match is the most expansive music service offering I can think of.

iTunes won't even play FLAC files, so it's rather inconvenient for people with existing libraries. Yes I know I could convert it all to some proprietary Apple format, but it's easier to just not buy an iPhone.

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Post by isolli »

achairapart wrote: post #34

Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, Google Music or whatever now is called. I tried them all. They are all the same to me. There is one big thing that all these streaming services are missing: *METADATA* Give me all the album by this label, all the songs produced by X or all the songs where in Y plays drums. All the albums recorded at some studio in the year Z. With tools like this I will spend years (and whatever money) on…

There are such niche services for classical music. For instance, idagio.com is really excellent with metadata. You see e.g. all works by a performer or all performers of a work.

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Post by Gatsky »

hasbot wrote: post #67

I keep a copy of my entire music library on my phone and don't use any music service at all. I have over 13,000 songs across over 1200 albums and 500 artists. I don't need to find any more music; there's plenty of good songs in my library that I haven't fully absorbed yet.

iOS or Android? What do you use to listen?

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Post by sumtechguy »

zwily wrote: post #17
hammock wrote: post #5

Is there a library-focused video streaming service?

Maybe Plex?

Plex and its father KODI are very good for local. There are plugins for external stuff. But the quality is kind of random and subject to the whims of whatever SaaS they are scraping.
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