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Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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Statistics is probably more useful than Calculus for just about everyone.

Sure. “An average human has one breast and one testicle” - N.N. Taleb

Corollary: If a human has two legs, they have an above-average number of legs.

Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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Did you read the whole article? At the end it reveals the entire point - that failing to take into consideration the age of study participants in things like Covid death rates render false conclusions from studies.

So a guy posted something on Facebook and got less likes than a teenage girl usually gets on Instagram. And so this another guy decides to preach to the choir because of that? Might as well write an article about microchips in the vaccines and 5G. I guess it also will hit the top on HN.

Berenson is not just some nobody. He is a prominent media personality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Berenson

Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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Wow that seemed like a lot of effort to make a point. Often twitter oversimplifies things, but that could legitimately have been a tweet of the offending graph and a few words about how older/sick people are more likely to have been vaccinated, and also more likely to die because they're old/sick.

I do like the original Ghostbusters movie, but I'm not sure that really added to the effect for me.

Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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post #30

This article is like the factcheckers fact checking a similar irrelevant thing to avoid having to investigate the real issue

I'm seeing a slight upward trend in the "1 dose" line (indeed just crossing the "unvaccinated" line in a latest month), but the "2 doses" line is much lower than both, and doesn't seem to be changing much.

You're totally right, misread the chart. Edited all out unless I find the weekly report

Still why would people with 1 dose be dying more than unvaccinated?

Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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post #53

Wow that seemed like a lot of effort to make a point. Often twitter oversimplifies things, but that could legitimately have been a tweet of the offending graph and a few words about how older/sick people are more likely to have been vaccinated, and also more likely to die because they're old/sick. I do like the original Ghostbusters movie, but I'm not sure that really added to the effect for me.

Changing minds with humor is better than making points in the echo chamber.

Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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Tl;dr someone fell for Simpson's paradox [0] and wrote a (probably 'viral') post on how Covid-19 vaccines are killing us; this is a (slightly confusing at first without context, I thought - especially because it starts of joking about correlation/causation that seems a bit different to me) rebuttal. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson%27s_paradox#Correlatio...

It seems to me that Berenson didn't "fall" for Simpson's paradox. He's a smart person. He peddles inflammatory rhetoric to build an audience.

For example, he portrayed New Zealand's 2-week quarantine requirements for incoming travellers to New Zealand as "indefinite confinement for New Zealanders". When people pointed out the gulf between what he was saying and what the law was, he doubled down. I'd share the exact tweets, but unfortunately his account is now suspended. Twitter really needs a way to access tweets from banned accounts in a way that removes their virality but preserves them for posterity.

Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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post #38

Tl;dr someone fell for Simpson's paradox [0] and wrote a (probably 'viral') post on how Covid-19 vaccines are killing us; this is a (slightly confusing at first without context, I thought - especially because it starts of joking about correlation/causation that seems a bit different to me) rebuttal. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson%27s_paradox#Correlatio...

Berenson is one of the most prominent deniers, previously famous for his claims about marijuana being far more dangerous than commonly believed.

I'm curious how you're (as someone who it sounds like doesn't believe him/fall for it) aware of them?

I believe you, assume you're correct, he's (nor anyone else like that) just not 'on my radar' at all. I just assumed prominence/virality of at least this one post due to the existence of one (the submission) refuting it.

Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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Its so so clearly a joke. Come on man.

What's the joke? It seems to me they're trying to make a point about the study that appears lower on the page, the one claiming that vaccinated people are dying at a higher rate than unvaccinated.

That's not a study. It's a blog post.

Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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Often, but not in this case, hence my comment.

Did you read the whole article? At the end it reveals the entire point - that failing to take into consideration the age of study participants in things like Covid death rates render false conclusions from studies.

> Did you read the whole article?

This is Hacker News! Of course not.

Re: Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

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post #14

This reminds me of the sort of light poking of common "correlation is not the same as causation" and "beware of confounding factors" statistical failures behind the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster "clearly reduction in pirates has caused global warming!" [0]. But it's a major in modern public discourse, and one for once that I'm quite willing to lay heavily at the feet of the public education system. Easily on…

Statistics is probably more useful than Calculus for just about everyone.

77% of all statistics are made up on the spot
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