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Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

#81

Hah, I can't believe that Germany (of all EU countries) will likely be legalizing cannabis before the Netherlands. This is good news, though.

They are not going to. I have not heard any plans to allow home growing, and I don't expect there will be anything that could cut into the tax profits. That means it is still prohibited in the most basic form. It's sinister.

Well, it’s viridis.

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

#82
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Hope this won't lead to more smoking in public places. Every time I notice people consuming or having have had consumed the drug in some form, I found it even more insufferable than day-to-day cigarettes.

This morning I went outside and my city smelled like shit because of pig farms that are over a hundred miles away.

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your theory is that soon everybody will be so stoned that they stop caring about everything else or whom is this distraction supposed to be targetted on?

I'm pretty sure his theory is that the whole discussion about cannabis is a distraction from other political topics, i.e. that our new Kanzler was one of the people responsible for the biggest corruption scandal in Germanys history (Google his name + CumEx) and other similar stuff. It's not so much what people are gonna do once it's passed and more about what controversial topics they can raise so people don't pay at…

I don't see anything which would serve as a base for this assumption.

Barely anyone outside the youth bubble cares about this topic atm and I don't see it changing anytime soon. Nothing is being clouded by it and it won't be. I'd be surprised if it generates more than one BILD headline when they come up with an actual law. It surely won't be the headline of tomorrow.

> I personally have never had a worse outlook on Germanys political future. This will show any politician that they don't have to worry about anything and keep enriching themselves with no recourse to speak of.

I guess this is the actual source of your assumption. Your perception is being clouded by something which seems to radiate a vision of Germany where the past years of standing still is something which you consider having been better than the program we just got today.

Meanwhile, in reality we're finally moving. Important topics will be actually grabbed and moved. There are more good ideas in this program than within the combined time of Merkel together and all you are talking about is: "Scholz bad" & "something something cannabis".

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is "here"? The article mentions it is decriminalized in DE.

It's not really decriminalized. While you don't have to fear criminal prosecution in most cases (unless you're in Bavaria) they will punish you by taking away your driving license, even if you never actually drove under influence.

If you don't have a driver's license what else can they do to you?

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

#85

Hopefully, as strongest economy in EU finally gets some sanity re weed other countries not only in the bloc will follow. No reason to vilify (non-trivial) part of the population that just wants some relax in these trying times. Give users selection. Filter and punish misuse with same criteria as alcohol. Anything above doesn't make much sense. Also funny is like police unions quickly protested against, I guess signif…

> think also companies owning private prisons push anti-legalization propaganda. As they say, just follow the money...

There is way more propaganda in favor of legalization. And more money can be made selling cannabis than was ever made with prisional system.

I've read books, read papers about cannabis. There isnt enough information to make any claim weather legalization would cause a net positive or negative change in society.

Because of this, people usually goes into more philosophical argumentation. Which is fine.

But it is funny seeing people arguing that cannabis should be legalized because freedom. But are not OK with people using the same argument for not taking vaccines.

(I know this "nuanced", still find funny)

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

#86
I can’t get super happy about this because it should never have been illegal in the first place. Thanks for reverting something incredibly dumb.

But this also makes me mad. They chose to legalize one of many wrongly illegalized substances and now barely mention the others (testing, boo hoo). They better do some criminalization (obligatory Portugal reference).

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

#87

Good news. The momentum is becoming irresistible and irreversible.

This isn't about momentum for legalization. That was never lost on Germany. However, 21.3% of people allowed to vote are 70+ years old here. Make that 38.2% for 60+ years old. Germany wouldn't have suffered 16 years of conservative neglect and stagnation, if it wasn't for the "not really interested in politics at my age anymore" and the literally demented. Honestly, we only got a chance to a future, pay the infrastru…

From my outsider’s perspective as an American, Germany has always looked like a well functioning, stable nation. I see here a transition from slight right of center to slight left of center, and a corresponding policy shift that will place you at the vanguard of progressivism on drug policy. Nothing about this seems “fucked,” it seems very good and even impressive.

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is "here"? The article mentions it is decriminalized in DE.

How hard is it to imagine that an hn user is not based in the us?

this question tells more about your own biases rather than the commenter above honestly.

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

#89

I can’t get super happy about this because it should never have been illegal in the first place. Thanks for reverting something incredibly dumb. But this also makes me mad. They chose to legalize one of many wrongly illegalized substances and now barely mention the others (testing, boo hoo). They better do some criminalization (obligatory Portugal reference).

DE-criminalization, of course.

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

#90
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This sounds like a distraction to cover actual issues right now.

In Germany 3 political parties have just reached an agreement to form a coalition. This means they have had to get together and agree on a common position somewhere between the policies they campaigned on. No-one gets into Government in Germany unless they are prepared to compromise.

The policy document is 177 pages long and covers every possible subject. Naturally people cherry pick the paragraphs they find most interesting. So there was no specific policy announcement about this, but neither could they avoid saying something.

To say Germany "will legalise marijuana" is probably even a bit strong. There is no guarantee of when, if at all these policies will actually be implemented. It is unlikely all of them will be.

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