This sounds like a distraction to cover actual issues right now.
So your theory is that soon everybody will be so stoned that they stop caring about everything else or whom is this distraction supposed to be targetted on?
Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction
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#32Hope this won't lead to more smoking in public places. Every time I notice people consuming or having have had consumed the drug in some form, I found it even more insufferable than day-to-day cigarettes.
It seems fairly obvious that the subset of circumstances in which you become aware someone HAS ingested a drug (and is therefore intoxicated) would be more annoying than the superset of circumstances in which you merely see that someone is beginning to consume a drug.
Not necessarily. If it's the smoke and smell that bothers me rather than intoxicated antics, I might be more annoyed by someone lighting up at the coffee table next to mine than if they were just sitting there stoned out of their mind.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
If there’s x% chance of addiction and the availability increases by few orders of magnitude wouldn’t it naturally follow?
No. There is precedent in various US states and a handful of countries. Cost benefit analysis of what is actually happening in these places is a key motivator for the continued wave of legalization around the world. This is much studied. DYOR but here's a start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=portugal+drug+policy&hl... Also, I'm not sure if you literally mea…
TIL thanks.
By few OOM, I mean that the use is very small now due to taboo and legal barriers that it is likely to be faaar more pervasive once they go away. But your data seems to contradict this so I need to do more research
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#34Mostly off topic but when I read these stories I'm always irked at the use of "marijuana" instead of cannabis. Maybe because I'm in Toronto where cannabis is fully legal and every store around me that sells it uses cannabis - not to mention the products all use that term as well. Marijuana just seems like your using old, slightly racist terminology. And makes me think of 4/20 BLAZE IT kind of crap. Which is probably…
Marijuana is the dried leaves and flowers of the Cannabis sativa or Cannabis indica plant. I cannot imagine how the term is racist. But the fact thay it makes you think of 420, that’s just you.
I agree with parent. Cannabis and marijuana are synonymous. Marijuana is more negatively connoted. I'd prefer to use Cannabis which is more neutral.
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#35Mostly off topic but when I read these stories I'm always irked at the use of "marijuana" instead of cannabis. Maybe because I'm in Toronto where cannabis is fully legal and every store around me that sells it uses cannabis - not to mention the products all use that term as well. Marijuana just seems like your using old, slightly racist terminology. And makes me think of 4/20 BLAZE IT kind of crap. Which is probably…
Marijuana is the dried leaves and flowers of the Cannabis sativa or Cannabis indica plant. I cannot imagine how the term is racist. But the fact thay it makes you think of 420, that’s just you.
> The use of "marihuana" in American English increased dramatically in the 1930s, when it was preferred as an exotic-sounding alternative name during debates on the drug's use. It has been suggested that in the United States the word was promoted by opponents of the drug, who wanted to stigmatize it with a "foreign-sounding name".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_(word)#Early_use_of_...
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Marijuana is the dried leaves and flowers of the Cannabis sativa or Cannabis indica plant. I cannot imagine how the term is racist. But the fact thay it makes you think of 420, that’s just you.
Marijuana was like a barely existing Spanish slang promoted at the beginning of cannabis being illegal in the first half of the 20th century to make cannabis seem more foreign and worthy of a ban. It's definitely suspicious at least. If you really want you can view it as more cynically exploiting existing prejudice than prejudiced in and of itself, but I am not sure that is much of an exoneration.
Language evolves. The use is uncontroversial today and specifically refers to the flower.
We're all aware of previously uncontroversial words that are taboo today. The reverse can happen as well.
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#37Things will change when cannabis users (in Germany) stopped treated like criminals
Where is "here"? The article mentions it is decriminalized in DE.
It's not really decriminalized. While you don't have to fear criminal prosecution in most cases (unless you're in Bavaria) they will punish you by taking away your driving license, even if you never actually drove under influence.
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#39Hope this won't lead to more smoking in public places. Every time I notice people consuming or having have had consumed the drug in some form, I found it even more insufferable than day-to-day cigarettes.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. There is precedent in various US states and a handful of countries. Cost benefit analysis of what is actually happening in these places is a key motivator for the continued wave of legalization around the world. This is much studied. DYOR but here's a start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=portugal+drug+policy&hl... Also, I'm not sure if you literally mea…
TIL thanks. By few OOM, I mean that the use is very small now due to taboo and legal barriers that it is likely to be faaar more pervasive once they go away. But your data seems to contradict this so I need to do more research
Is the use very small now? In the US, even before state-by-state decriminalization, anyone who wanted it could quite easily get it. There will be an uptick in consumption once it’s more convenient to buy and has better QC and labeling, but I’d be shocked if overall use even doubled let alone went up 100x.