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Electronic signatures are free right now. The heavyweight rigmaroles are just security blankets for lawyers. /mindslight/ mindslight (ref: https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/sigexamp... )
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Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#112Can anyone describe the target market here? Docusign and others have monthly sub rates that would drive the per-signature way lower for large volumes.
I'm not sure if you're guessing, but DocuSign and Adobe Sign's per-envelope (not per signature) rate is expensive and doesn't scale down on volume as quickly as you'd think. In fact, to get lower rates.. you need to buy their "X" and "Y" products/addons (e.g. Contract Lifecycle Management). Bottom line is, whilst the name of this new service is bad and would immediately get a no from our execs, there is a market for…
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#113Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Electronic signatures are free right now. The heavyweight rigmaroles are just security blankets for lawyers. /mindslight/ mindslight (ref: https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/sigexamp... )
We see your username when you post, you don't have to sign it.
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
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Pay as you Go scales until there is enough loyalty and demand that your users opt for a monthly fee to save money. By forcing everyone to a monthly fee you alienate a ton of users that want to use your service but not enough to need a subscription.
The only ones you alienate are penny pinching HN users.
I bet there are orders of magnitude more users like me, the sum of which would be a sizeable market. But instead every SAAS provider is focused only on regular monthly users, ignoring this shadow market. But it is a false dichotomy. Make it highly profitable but not scalable to do Pay as you Go, and then less profitable but scalable to go monthly. Do both.
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In this case I think the bikeshedding is warranted. I agree, the name seems antithetical to the concept that the brand really needs to get across, of a solid, trustworthy organisation serving as a proxy for obtaining legally valid signatures. There’s nothing wrong with leading with the marketing message that this is a cheaper solution than the competition but the brand of the service still needs to evoke trust. Lucki…
Bikeshedding is never warranted, but this isn't bike shedding. Bikeshedding would be this name doesn't conform to pedantic reference A. The name going against the core value of a signature may be a simple observation but isn't a shallow one.
Frequently statements which start like this also, unintentionally, tend to be great examples of bikeshedding themselves.
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One of the best pieces of advice I got when I started my first business (A PC Repair business) was to use the term inexpensive instead of cheap for this reason.
Budget friendly, low cost, entry level. All great alternatives to the word “cheap”.
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In this case I think the bikeshedding is warranted. I agree, the name seems antithetical to the concept that the brand really needs to get across, of a solid, trustworthy organisation serving as a proxy for obtaining legally valid signatures. There’s nothing wrong with leading with the marketing message that this is a cheaper solution than the competition but the brand of the service still needs to evoke trust. Lucki…
Bikeshedding is never warranted, but this isn't bike shedding. Bikeshedding would be this name doesn't conform to pedantic reference A. The name going against the core value of a signature may be a simple observation but isn't a shallow one.
This seems to be a rather self referential point :)
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
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Pay as you go doesn’t scale. It’s chasing short term growth in lieu of long term stability.
Pay as you Go scales until there is enough loyalty and demand that your users opt for a monthly fee to save money. By forcing everyone to a monthly fee you alienate a ton of users that want to use your service but not enough to need a subscription.
Pay as you go is a terrible decision to make and you see you all the time you it’s VC backed startups.
They are often forced to revamp their offerings down the line to a monthly fee.
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Lobbying
Which law or regulation have they lobbied through? Or do you mean some non-government lobbying?