DocuSign is completely free if all you use it for is to sign documents and download the signed copy. They only charge you for using the platform to return or send documents to be signed. I've used it for years at no cost at all.
Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
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Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have the same question about what makes up the cost structure. How much does it cost docusign/hellosign etc to be the "notary"? FWIW the other signature providers have an enterprise sales process which is very negotiable. Pretty sure you can hit this price point at scale, but I hate doing enterprise sales negotiations. Will signature APIs be free in 10 years? [0] [0]: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/14609332654608…
Electronic signatures are free right now. The heavyweight rigmaroles are just security blankets for lawyers. /mindslight/ mindslight (ref: https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/sigexamp... )
I was _really_ confused why you signed your comment when the HN UI already shows who made the comment - then I remembered the context of the conversation :P
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#33Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#34HelloSign is free (for a limited number of documents per month). I've used it occasionally over the years it works great.
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#35There are hundreds of free e-signature websites, why would I pay you 25 cents over them? DocuSign has a brand behind it that pushes legalities of e-signatures and a huge base where if you say you signed with DocuSign people know what you mean.
So does Zoom, that doesn't mean we should perpetuate it.
But if you want to unseat Zoom, you need to be able to articulate a reason.
All of zoom’s serious competitors do this.
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#36I will never understand why so many products offer saas pricing when it is of no benefit to the consumer. I don't want to be paying $10/month for something I might only use a few times a year. Just let me pay as I go. I'm relieved to see that model here. Finally. I signed up and I hope other services will follow suit in the same way and relieve us of saas pricing fatigue. Interestingly a startup I helped with some BI…
Pay as you go doesn’t scale.
It’s chasing short term growth in lieu of long term stability.
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
"We'll send you an email to sign with our secure in-house service, it's like DocuSign?, and that'll wrap everything up!"
Yeah, won't work for most of the situations when the lawyers come, because the lawyers will claim the third-party website is bogus
A verbal agreement, and digital signature (with clear intent) is bogus?
Genuinely: on what grounds are you thinking?
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#38I read the ESIGN Act and I think other laws are probably similar. All the is required is a few components for a digital signature to be considered valid. Why do we need images of pdfs and docusign to make agreements? Wouldn't it be so much better to have people click to e-sign something on our own site, where we control the entire process AND make it easy to understand what things mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_signatures_and_law
All you need for a digital signature to be legally binding is:
(i) Intent to sign & opt-out clause. ...
(ii) Consent to do business electronically. ...
(iii) Clear signature attribution. ...
(iv) Association of signature with the record. ...
(v) Record retention.
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#39What benefits do products such as DocuSign or cheapesignature have over digital signatures provided by open source libraries such as NaCl [1]? [1] https://nacl.cr.yp.to/
We don't live in a world where everyone is a software engineer.
Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature
#40I will never understand why so many products offer saas pricing when it is of no benefit to the consumer. I don't want to be paying $10/month for something I might only use a few times a year. Just let me pay as I go. I'm relieved to see that model here. Finally. I signed up and I hope other services will follow suit in the same way and relieve us of saas pricing fatigue. Interestingly a startup I helped with some BI…
Most recent example of this for me was a faxing app. I needed to fax a handful of pages for the first (and probably only) time in years, and they wanted me to sign up for a monthly subscription.