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Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by universenz »

r00fus wrote: post #3

Can anyone describe the target market here? Docusign and others have monthly sub rates that would drive the per-signature way lower for large volumes.

I'm not sure if you're guessing, but DocuSign and Adobe Sign's per-envelope (not per signature) rate is expensive and doesn't scale down on volume as quickly as you'd think. In fact, to get lower rates.. you need to buy their "X" and "Y" products/addons (e.g. Contract Lifecycle Management).

Bottom line is, whilst the name of this new service is bad and would immediately get a no from our execs, there is a market for a pay-as-you-go service like what they're providing.. especially as it becomes commoditised thanks to the pioneers.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by djrogers »

whatever1 wrote: post #25
mig39 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's really easy to do on iOS these days. Maybe the last version or two. You can "markup" PDFs and include signatures, etc.

Now the ship has sailed. The files app was introduced I believe in iOS 11. By that time Docusign was already multibillion dollar company with high market share, and the iOS users were not trained to use files anyway. So even if you Can do it yourself, you are receiving a docusign link anyway.

Don't confuse the ability to scribble on a digital document with an actual 'legal' electronic signature.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by cosmolev »

krmmalik wrote: post #22

I will never understand why so many products offer saas pricing when it is of no benefit to the consumer. I don't want to be paying $10/month for something I might only use a few times a year. Just let me pay as I go. I'm relieved to see that model here. Finally. I signed up and I hope other services will follow suit in the same way and relieve us of saas pricing fatigue. Interestingly a startup I helped with some BI…

Would you mind sharing that startup you advised?

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by voisin »

nojito wrote: post #36
krmmalik wrote: post #22

I will never understand why so many products offer saas pricing when it is of no benefit to the consumer. I don't want to be paying $10/month for something I might only use a few times a year. Just let me pay as I go. I'm relieved to see that model here. Finally. I signed up and I hope other services will follow suit in the same way and relieve us of saas pricing fatigue. Interestingly a startup I helped with some BI…

Pay as you go doesn’t scale. It’s chasing short term growth in lieu of long term stability.

Pay as you Go scales until there is enough loyalty and demand that your users opt for a monthly fee to save money. By forcing everyone to a monthly fee you alienate a ton of users that want to use your service but not enough to need a subscription.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by kube-system »

whatever1 wrote: post #27
jonas21 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DocuSign exists because there are various federal and state laws that regulate electronic signatures. Companies are required to make disclosures, collect affirmative consent, retain records, provide access to them to the person who signed, etc. It's easier for most companies to outsource this to DocuSign than to do it in-house (and as others have mentioned, they're not paying $2 per signature at scale).

A signed document sent from my email address has the same properties.

Docusign gathers information for the purposes of provenance and compliance beyond what is captured in an email.

This is the reason organizations pay for it, despite already having email.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by renewiltord »

I'm not going to send someone an offer letter that is cheapesignature.com/sign-my-offer-letter. I'd look like a chump. Like the 'cheap' evokes some rando site and the 'esignature' makes me think of egold. The only e-prefix that works is email. Everything else has scamtones.

I'll use HelloSign and get Dropbox storage along the way and call it a day. Docusign is what people trust, but Hellosign is acceptable, but cheapesignature is too much. All the branding is "I'm trying to save pennies on a $20/mo product".

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by mdavis6890 »

nojito wrote: post #36
krmmalik wrote: post #22

I will never understand why so many products offer saas pricing when it is of no benefit to the consumer. I don't want to be paying $10/month for something I might only use a few times a year. Just let me pay as I go. I'm relieved to see that model here. Finally. I signed up and I hope other services will follow suit in the same way and relieve us of saas pricing fatigue. Interestingly a startup I helped with some BI…

Pay as you go doesn’t scale. It’s chasing short term growth in lieu of long term stability.

They need to charge enough per unit of service to make it worthwhile. And people need to understand that they need to pay for services. Not everything is free.

Subscriptions are a good model for things that you use often and regularly. PAYG is better for things that have high value when you need them, but you don't need often.

I can see services like this offering both, and customers choosing one or the other based on their usage pattern.

You see this with movies already, and I think it works well: You can subscribe to the monthly and watch whatever, whenever. Or just rent movies when you occasionally want to watch one. Both are cool.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Post by com2kid »

whatever1 wrote: post #14

Docusign exists because the mobile os makers decided that the file system must be hidden from the user. In my Mac/pc it would take 30” to open a pdf attachment, sign it and send back the copy. On my phone it’s painful to do the same task. So we did it to ourselves. Don’t complain now, pay up.

> pc it would take 30” to open a pdf attachment, sign it and send back the copy.

Windows only, comparatively, recently got built in PDF reading support through browsers. Prior to that you either installed acrobat and had Adobe try to shove free antivirus trials onto your machine with every update, or you were in the know and installed foxit.

And signing a PDF on a PC? Now day sure, but its been built into MacOS/OS X for ages.

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