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Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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There are hundreds of free e-signature websites, why would I pay you 25 cents over them? DocuSign has a brand behind it that pushes legalities of e-signatures and a huge base where if you say you signed with DocuSign people know what you mean.

"We'll send you an email to sign with our secure in-house service, it's like DocuSign?, and that'll wrap everything up!"

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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I will never understand why so many products offer saas pricing when it is of no benefit to the consumer. I don't want to be paying $10/month for something I might only use a few times a year. Just let me pay as I go. I'm relieved to see that model here. Finally. I signed up and I hope other services will follow suit in the same way and relieve us of saas pricing fatigue.

Interestingly a startup I helped with some BI work, I advised then to change to a pay-as-you-go model instead of a monthly subscription and their sales revenue sky-rocketed.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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There are hundreds of free e-signature websites, why would I pay you 25 cents over them? DocuSign has a brand behind it that pushes legalities of e-signatures and a huge base where if you say you signed with DocuSign people know what you mean.

So does Zoom, that doesn't mean we should perpetuate it.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Back when DocuSign first came out around 2003 the finance company I worked for was ready to sign up with them at an exorbitant rate.

From what I recall, President Clinton had just signed the e-signature bill in 2000 and all DocuSign seemed to be doing is combining a snapshot of a document along with someone's hand-typed name and generating an MD5 hash from it.

I proposed creating our own e-signature app that did that and we used it for the rest of the time I worked at the company (4 years). I think what others are saying - that you're buying the brand DocuSign - is true.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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post #20

Docusign exists because the mobile os makers decided that the file system must be hidden from the user. In my Mac/pc it would take 30” to open a pdf attachment, sign it and send back the copy. On my phone it’s painful to do the same task. So we did it to ourselves. Don’t complain now, pay up.

That's really easy to do on iOS these days. Maybe the last version or two. You can "markup" PDFs and include signatures, etc.

Now the ship has sailed. The files app was introduced I believe in iOS 11.

By that time Docusign was already multibillion dollar company with high market share, and the iOS users were not trained to use files anyway.

So even if you Can do it yourself, you are receiving a docusign link anyway.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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Docusign exists because the mobile os makers decided that the file system must be hidden from the user. In my Mac/pc it would take 30” to open a pdf attachment, sign it and send back the copy. On my phone it’s painful to do the same task. So we did it to ourselves. Don’t complain now, pay up.

DocuSign exists because there are various federal and state laws that regulate electronic signatures. Companies are required to make disclosures, collect affirmative consent, retain records, provide access to them to the person who signed, etc.

It's easier for most companies to outsource this to DocuSign than to do it in-house (and as others have mentioned, they're not paying $2 per signature at scale).

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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post #26

Docusign exists because the mobile os makers decided that the file system must be hidden from the user. In my Mac/pc it would take 30” to open a pdf attachment, sign it and send back the copy. On my phone it’s painful to do the same task. So we did it to ourselves. Don’t complain now, pay up.

DocuSign exists because there are various federal and state laws that regulate electronic signatures. Companies are required to make disclosures, collect affirmative consent, retain records, provide access to them to the person who signed, etc. It's easier for most companies to outsource this to DocuSign than to do it in-house (and as others have mentioned, they're not paying $2 per signature at scale).

A signed document sent from my email address has the same properties.

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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post #21

There are hundreds of free e-signature websites, why would I pay you 25 cents over them? DocuSign has a brand behind it that pushes legalities of e-signatures and a huge base where if you say you signed with DocuSign people know what you mean.

"We'll send you an email to sign with our secure in-house service, it's like DocuSign?, and that'll wrap everything up!"

Yeah, won't work for most of the situations when the lawyers come, because the lawyers will claim the third-party website is bogus

Re: Stop paying DocuSign $2 for an e-signature

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the same question about what makes up the cost structure. How much does it cost docusign/hellosign etc to be the "notary"? FWIW the other signature providers have an enterprise sales process which is very negotiable. Pretty sure you can hit this price point at scale, but I hate doing enterprise sales negotiations. Will signature APIs be free in 10 years? [0] [0]: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/14609332654608…

Electronic signatures are free right now. The heavyweight rigmaroles are just security blankets for lawyers. /mindslight/ mindslight (ref: https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/sigexamp... )

We see your username when you post, you don't have to sign it.
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