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Boomers were the ones who started the recent environmental movement, so your quote is rather ironic.
Those boomers were rare and spat on, though. In the current younger generations, enviromentalism is generally accepted as a good idea.
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We call ourselves “Developed”. It’s already implicitly throwing in the towel - there is nothing more to be done. We’ve already developed. This entire thinking and it’s psyche in our society feels like straight up propaganda. It used to be first-world and third-world. Chinese labor force isn’t going to help defend Taiwan by making tank gadgets for them. Investing in Chinese labor has so many issues. If we didn’t have…
The Rust Belt was primarily a product of Japan rather than China. It's only a very recent development where Chinese manufacturing jobs could have feasibly benefited American workers. Before the mid 2000s, they were mostly manufacturing cheap trinkets. Outsourcing also freed how labor pool to other pursuits such as college and white collared jobs. Without a large pool of workers eager to leave to Rust Belt, Silicon Va…
https://quillette.com/2021/07/21/silicon-valleys-cynical-tre...
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> Shouldn't the US try to improve China? The goal of US foreign policy has never been to improve the lives of people anywhere outside the US. A sibling comment points out that one of our closest allies in the Middle East is Saudi Arabia, an absolute monarchy that publicly beheads dissidents and has incredibly sexist laws, yet the US does nothing, and we see nothing like the neo Cold War coverage that Xinjiang produce…
I don't disagree substantially, and I don't think you're a "conspiracy theorist", however I must say that you and many others seem to be reading into my question what I did not mean. I'm not asserting that the US has had positive impact, I'm asking whether or not they should have a positive impact despite internal issues still existing. Does that make sense?
So the BS meter is rising.
Re: Chinese embassy lobbies U.S. business to oppose China bills
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> I don't understand why America, long a champion of immigration, doesn't open the floodgates back up. America has never been a champion of immigration, and honestly I don't really remember a time that the 'floodgates were open' so to speak, and it's not even a partisan issue. The last major immigration tightening was Bill Clinton with IIRAIRA in 1996 while the last amnesty was Reagan in 1986. Don't take my word for…
> America has never been a champion of immigration 97.91% of US citizens have immigrant ancestors, if that's not championing immigration nothing is.
Re: Chinese embassy lobbies U.S. business to oppose China bills
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Dislike of the CCP is not Sinopobia, just as dislike of the Mob isn't anti-Italian. So many people really wish the CCP would just loosen their grip a bit so that foreigners/Westerners can have real, two-way relationships with Mainlanders. Honestly, at least in the circles I frequent, the biggest critics of the CCP are either (non-Mainland) Chinese themselves or Sinophiles. Other people simply don't care that much.
Do you mean CCP are popular within PRC? But less popular outside in the Chinese diaspora?
My point was simply that the CCP != China.
They've put a huge amount of propaganda work into trying to conflate criticism of the party with hatred of the country (and by extension, the people in it), to the point where even foreigners start to drink the Kool-Aid.
It's simply untrue, however.
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Because the US didn't have a giant welfare system when the 'floodgates' were open. Immigrants moved to New York or other places, and worked exceptionally hard to provide for themselves or were forced to return home. Now, they can move to San Francisco and have the city spend thousands of dollars on them for free. It's nearly impossible to starve on US streets today, because there's free food on nearly every street. T…
This is a hilarious comment. Granted this forum has an over-abundance of the so-called academic elite and so phrases like "low intelligence" and "work ethic" can be passed around with impunity. But what I cant look past is the audacity to suggest and eveb imply that historical migrants from Europe(mostly) worked hard and had some magically higher IQ. What? If even the academic elite, who pride themselves in their rat…
To put this in perspective, the US Army generally doesn't accept people below 85 IQ because they are ineffective in any position (yes, they are considered inadequate to be a janitor).
You also didn't address my point about values or crime, both of which are proven. Particularly, some immigrant groups have huge portions of support for groups like ISIS. [1] That's before we get into the homophobia and abuse of women.
[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and...
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Because the US didn't have a giant welfare system when the 'floodgates' were open. Immigrants moved to New York or other places, and worked exceptionally hard to provide for themselves or were forced to return home. Now, they can move to San Francisco and have the city spend thousands of dollars on them for free. It's nearly impossible to starve on US streets today, because there's free food on nearly every street. T…
Migrants everywhere are, as a group, net contributors to welfare programs. You're living in propaganda land if you actually believe the myth of immigrants coming to get welfare: immigrants come to work.
If there were no welfare, the Luxembourgian banker would still be able to immigrate. As would lower and middle class people who work. The only people you're defending at that point is the people who refuse to work (a significant portion of the migrants during the EU migrant crisis still do not work).
A "safety net" is not supposed to be used so you never have to work. It's supposed to be a temporary cushion if you are in a bad spot. Not 2, 3, 4, 5 years (which you spend not integrating into your host country at all). Integration is a major problem, and migrants have created enclaves in Sweden, Germany and the UK with rules that do not match the host country.
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As a European, unions being against automation seems like a typical anti-union propaganda point. Can you show me some examples where unions acted out against automatisation?
Here it is from the horse's mouth, the newspaper of the ILA - International Longshoreman's Union: https://ilaunion.org/2021/05/latest-long-beach-terminal-auto... "TTI would become the fourth automated container terminal in Southern California. Total Terminals International’s (TTI’s) decision this week to automate its 385-acre Pier T terminal in Long Beach sets up a classic struggle between terminal operator employers…
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Its quite simple. With the advent of globalisation the self-interest of the elites is no longer in alignment with the national interest. They can make money far more easily by employing Chinese workers, growing Chinese industry, than they do local. And of course, anyone that pushes back against this is (conveniently) a "xenophobic, racist, white supremacist, Trump-voting blah blah blah...".
I wouldn't go so far as to call it racism, but I do find it somewhat xenophobic to suggest that it is wrong to outsource you work to other countries. Why is a Chinese worker any less worthy of a job than an American one? $1 in in a developing country goes further than $10 in a developed one. Globalization has granted billions of people access to things we take for granted like electricity and heating.
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