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I can't quite tell what this question relates to.
You are either delusional or drunk.
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People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
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Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#42I got one dose of JJ and i was feeling so sick that it was difficult to stand up for two days. The idea of doing that routinely is insane to me.
I got covid in march. I had a fever for two days, about two weeks of congestion and mucus, and loss of taste/smell for a month. I had two antibody tests done, july and september. I was positive on both. Got the J&J in setember because it was becoming impossible to do anything without a vaccine card and it was worse than covid. One and a half days of chills, fever, sweating. Whatever antibodies I got from my vaccine w…
Vaccine-induced or natural immunity isn't just about antibodies. Immune system gets to remember the spike protein (vaccine) and other characteristics of the virus (natural immunity) so even if antibodies go down, the body remembers and can create new antibodies on next encounter. So you still have some immunity benefit.
Agreed on natural immunity, it would be very unexpected and weird if it was substantially worse than vaccine-induced immunity. And there isn't any evidence of that, afaik.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
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Pfizer’s own data says the same thing. The safety and efficacy study they did shows that efficacy drops by about 6% every 2 months. Everyone will need boosters at least once per year in perpetuity if they want to maintain any reasonable amount of protection. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v...
> Everyone will need boosters at least once per year in perpetuity if they want to maintain any reasonable amount of protection At 6 months, there's a stark difference between VE against infection versus VE against hospitalization. What endpoint should we really care about? Constantly boosting a non-sterilizing vaccine that is apparently still highly effective at reducing the risk of severe outcomes is mind boggling.…
I recall all the way back in March public health “experts” said that everybody was gonna get it. That was the idea behind “flatten the curve” to keep everybody from getting it at once…
Dunno how society forgot that.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
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So it's better to get natural immunity while under the effect of vaccine. I'm sure Pfizer would prefer perpetual mandatory boosters because thats a fat revenue stream.
Nops, because of antigenic imprinting. From the wiki (that prefers the annoying name Original Antigenic Sin, probably invented by a theist) "Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting or the Hoskins effect,[1] refers to the propensity of the body's immune system to preferentially utilize immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathoge…
Correct. It's inconvenient for the current narrative of getting absolutely everyone vaccinated with a spike protein from a single variant, but the best immunity currently available is naturally-obtained.
Also, mostly unrelated, but the word "sin" has little to do with theism, though maybe that's where it's most commonly used. For example, in archery, a miss is called a "sin". I think it's apt for this concept.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I got covid in march. I had a fever for two days, about two weeks of congestion and mucus, and loss of taste/smell for a month. I had two antibody tests done, july and september. I was positive on both. Got the J&J in setember because it was becoming impossible to do anything without a vaccine card and it was worse than covid. One and a half days of chills, fever, sweating. Whatever antibodies I got from my vaccine w…
Vaccine-induced or natural immunity isn't just about antibodies. Immune system gets to remember the spike protein (vaccine) and other characteristics of the virus (natural immunity) so even if antibodies go down, the body remembers and can create new antibodies on next encounter. So you still have some immunity benefit. Agreed on natural immunity, it would be very unexpected and weird if it was substantially worse th…
And yet Wolenski, Fauci, the CDC, continue to "reccommend" people get vaccinated regardless of natural immunity and refused to answer the senate on whether they think those with natural immunity should be exempt from vaccine mandates.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#46Well, the infrastructure is now in place. At a whim, the government can strip back freedoms of people and claim it is for the greater good. It wont matter if you have had 2 injections of Pfizer in the past, the government soon will deem you completely unvaccinated and take away your freedoms without looking at your demographics or your previous vaccination status. Insanity.
Yep. Just like "at a whim" the government says you need a tetanus shot every ten years. Chilling.
Boosters will be required every 6 months unless new vaccines are invented, so I don’t think you can compare them.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#47Well, the infrastructure is now in place. At a whim, the government can strip back freedoms of people and claim it is for the greater good. It wont matter if you have had 2 injections of Pfizer in the past, the government soon will deem you completely unvaccinated and take away your freedoms without looking at your demographics or your previous vaccination status. Insanity.
Yep. Just like "at a whim" the government says you need a tetanus shot every ten years. Chilling.
There is no mandate for tetanus. Unless they just forgot to check mine when I went 15 years without one.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#48Well, the infrastructure is now in place. At a whim, the government can strip back freedoms of people and claim it is for the greater good. It wont matter if you have had 2 injections of Pfizer in the past, the government soon will deem you completely unvaccinated and take away your freedoms without looking at your demographics or your previous vaccination status. Insanity.
Who said at a whim? We need everyone to be vaccinated. I don't see anything different between requiring vaccination and requiring boosters
Vaccinated are still contracting the virus, spreading it, and being hospitalized. I don't think it's providing the safety you've been convinced it is.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#49All of this would have been avoided if we kept the vaccine only for the groups that are high risk.
Is absurdly pathetic to see healthy, relatively people in their 20's and 30's terribly scared of covid-19 as if it was ebola. Well, for you it is not, it never was.
Yes, you can get it and you can die, it is possible, but this is a very unlikely outcome to you. We should never ever created this level of fear to vaccinate people with a leaky vaccine, that is based in a few spike proteins from a single variant.
For the downvoters: Please show me numbers from the CDC proving me wrong.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
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You can't "muh freedom" your way out of a pandemic.
Especially if you're dead.
Unless you're old, obese or diabetic, your chance of dying is pretty low. For someone in their 30's, probably less than the flu.
And even if you're 80 years old, it is not a death sentence.
Stop acting like this is Ebola. It is not.