Live data from Hacker News

People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria

thelocal.at

31–40 of 63 posts

Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria

#31
post #16

And soon in the US if you don't have a booster you'll be considered dirty and unvaxxed. They will just keep moving the pole as long as they are allowed.

You mean until the pandemic is done?

It will be done about the same time the flu pandemic is done.

Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria

#32
post #24

Well, the infrastructure is now in place. At a whim, the government can strip back freedoms of people and claim it is for the greater good. It wont matter if you have had 2 injections of Pfizer in the past, the government soon will deem you completely unvaccinated and take away your freedoms without looking at your demographics or your previous vaccination status. Insanity.

Yep. Just like "at a whim" the government says you need a tetanus shot every ten years. Chilling.

Or they get you fired. Oh wait.

Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria

#33
post #9
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pfizer’s own data says the same thing. The safety and efficacy study they did shows that efficacy drops by about 6% every 2 months. Everyone will need boosters at least once per year in perpetuity if they want to maintain any reasonable amount of protection. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v...

Does natural immunity wane off at the same rate?

Not sure if there are studies, but I don't think it likely. It is almost natural to suppose that infection confers a broader antigenic stimuli than just a single spike protein for a single variant.

Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria

#34
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't look like it. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v... > SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic di…

So it's better to get natural immunity while under the effect of vaccine. I'm sure Pfizer would prefer perpetual mandatory boosters because thats a fat revenue stream.

Nops, because of antigenic imprinting.

From the wiki (that prefers the annoying name Original Antigenic Sin, probably invented by a theist)

"Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting or the Hoskins effect,[1] refers to the propensity of the body's immune system to preferentially utilize immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathogen (e.g. a virus or bacterium) is encountered. This leaves the immune system "trapped" by the first response it has made to each antigen, and unable to mount potentially more effective responses during subsequent infections. Antibodies or T-cells induced during infections with the first variant of the pathogen are subject to a form of original antigenic sin, termed repertoire freeze."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_antigenic_sin

Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria

#35
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the political coalition in power, supported by the voters in the county, says so. It's really that simple.

At least in the U.S. the actions being taken by our federal Executive are plainly illegal. So it hardly matters what the voters want if they can't get our Congress to pass an appropriate law enabling this. If your State Governor wants to mandate something then go for it.

Are you drunk?

Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria

#37
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in the U.S. the actions being taken by our federal Executive are plainly illegal. So it hardly matters what the voters want if they can't get our Congress to pass an appropriate law enabling this. If your State Governor wants to mandate something then go for it.

Are you drunk?

I can't quite tell what this question relates to.

Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria

#38

I got one dose of JJ and i was feeling so sick that it was difficult to stand up for two days. The idea of doing that routinely is insane to me.

I got covid in march. I had a fever for two days, about two weeks of congestion and mucus, and loss of taste/smell for a month. I had two antibody tests done, july and september. I was positive on both. Got the J&J in setember because it was becoming impossible to do anything without a vaccine card and it was worse than covid. One and a half days of chills, fever, sweating.

Whatever antibodies I got from my vaccine will probably disappear before my natural ones. I still don't understand the point of getting people who had a natural immunity to get vaccinated. There is little to no evidence natural immunity is worse, and compelling evidence it is superior to a vaccine (see: Israel study).

I remain convinced the CDC is in bed with the pharma companies producing the vaccines.

Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria

#40

I got one dose of JJ and i was feeling so sick that it was difficult to stand up for two days. The idea of doing that routinely is insane to me.

I got one dose of JJ and felt bad the next day. I got covid last week and slept a full day and felt miserable the rest of the week. My folks are sick going on a week and a half now (unvaccinated). Vaccines still seem much preferable to me.
Post reply on HN