People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
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Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#2Well, the infrastructure is now in place. At a whim, the government can strip back freedoms of people and claim it is for the greater good.
It wont matter if you have had 2 injections of Pfizer in the past, the government soon will deem you completely unvaccinated and take away your freedoms without looking at your demographics or your previous vaccination status.
Insanity.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#3You can't comply your way out of tyranny. Perhaps this change in rules will help more people to see this.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#4Well, the infrastructure is now in place. At a whim, the government can strip back freedoms of people and claim it is for the greater good. It wont matter if you have had 2 injections of Pfizer in the past, the government soon will deem you completely unvaccinated and take away your freedoms without looking at your demographics or your previous vaccination status. Insanity.
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Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#5This was exactly one of the concerns of those of us that criticized AstaZeneca in the past and wanted to wait for Biontech/Pfizer - that the vaccine will be considered second rate.
It was of course dismissed, just like the concerns about the blood clots were in the beginning.
Also recently several countries started recommending against using Moderna for under 30s due to the higher risk of heart issues compared to Biontech/Pfizer.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#6This was exactly one of the concerns of those of us that criticized AstaZeneca in the past and wanted to wait for Biontech/Pfizer - that the vaccine will be considered second rate. It was of course dismissed, just like the concerns about the blood clots were in the beginning. Also recently several countries started recommending against using Moderna for under 30s due to the higher risk of heart issues compared to Bio…
From the data in Israel it is clear that Pfizer's efficacy vanes over time, thus the need for boosters.
So, it is not because J&J is second rate. We will probably need boosters while there's high prevalence of the virus.
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#7This was exactly one of the concerns of those of us that criticized AstaZeneca in the past and wanted to wait for Biontech/Pfizer - that the vaccine will be considered second rate. It was of course dismissed, just like the concerns about the blood clots were in the beginning. Also recently several countries started recommending against using Moderna for under 30s due to the higher risk of heart issues compared to Bio…
From the data in Israel it is clear that Pfizer's efficacy vanes over time, thus the need for boosters. So, it is not because J&J is second rate. We will probably need boosters while there's high prevalence of the virus.
Pfizer’s own data says the same thing. The safety and efficacy study they did shows that efficacy drops by about 6% every 2 months.
Everyone will need boosters at least once per year in perpetuity if they want to maintain any reasonable amount of protection.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v...
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#8Well, the infrastructure is now in place. At a whim, the government can strip back freedoms of people and claim it is for the greater good. It wont matter if you have had 2 injections of Pfizer in the past, the government soon will deem you completely unvaccinated and take away your freedoms without looking at your demographics or your previous vaccination status. Insanity.
That's the new "unholy" - a fluid term outside of the law framework and defined by a few random joes who got to wear the "authority badge". I can totally see this new "holiness" getting extended to flu vaccines (with kickbacks from the flu vaccine manufacturers)I
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the data in Israel it is clear that Pfizer's efficacy vanes over time, thus the need for boosters. So, it is not because J&J is second rate. We will probably need boosters while there's high prevalence of the virus.
Pfizer’s own data says the same thing. The safety and efficacy study they did shows that efficacy drops by about 6% every 2 months. Everyone will need boosters at least once per year in perpetuity if they want to maintain any reasonable amount of protection. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v...
Does natural immunity wane off at the same rate?
Re: People with 1 dose J&J will be considered unvaxxed from Jan 3rd 2022 in Austria
#10And soon in the US if you don't have a booster you'll be considered dirty and unvaxxed. They will just keep moving the pole as long as they are allowed.