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Re: Business Essentials

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Post by cloudking »

jonathantf2 wrote: post #248
numbsafari wrote: post #206

The challenge for Apple is going to be their unwillingness to integrate with others. Business Manager only integrates with MS Azure Active Directory for IAM. The vast majority of small business do not have Azure Active Directory. They either have nothing, or they have Google Workspace. Apple needs to not just launch a competitor for AD. They need to properly support integrated directory services with a broader range…

At the MSP I work at every single customer we have uses Azure AD. G Suite isn't a proper business e-mail solution for a business with any more than 3 users - Exchange and Azure AD are the gold standard for cloud based office for SMB.

Yet Google and thousands of other enterprise companies seem to run just fine with Workspace in 100k+ user environments https://workspace.google.com/customers/

Re: Business Essentials

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Post by kalleboo »

jnieminen wrote: post #76
kalleboo wrote: post #33

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Yeah I guess for "business" users who are only storing office documents 2 TB is plenty, but as a home user, I bought into iCloud Photo Library and I'm about to pass the max 2.2TB storage limit of iCloud and will have to switch to Synology Photos or something

You could have the 2TB iCloud storage add-on and also the Apple One with 2TB to get the total of 4TB.

That's only available in a handful of countries (ones that have Apple News or Apple Fitness+ available), and not where I live.

Re: Business Essentials

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Post by atVelocet »

roody15 wrote: post #70
nlh wrote: post #60

So just to make sure I'm reading this correctly (this is not my area of speciality so bear with me): This is Apple-hosted MDM, yes? I took a brief spin through this world on a consulting project a few years ago and I found it SUPER weird that Apple didn't do this already. You had to do this weird dance between Apple Business Manager and the MDM solution (we ended up with SimpleMDM but looked at a bunch). I kept sayin…

Agree I manage 500+ Apple devices and have been in disbelief that Apple recommends using JAMF to manage their own devices. I use profile manager included with the Server App of MacOS and it is functional but limited in scope. I have expressed for years frustration that Apple recommends using MDM/ profiles to manage their devices … and then doesn’t even really offer an enterprise version of the software. Google by con…

For 500+ devices i would NEVER use a solution like JAMF and go with something like InTune or better MobileIron (MI). MI just works and is an absolute no brainer.

Apple gives every option possible for managing their devices via a third party software. They don't need to offer such a software themselves. And you really dont wanna deal with the Android clusterfuck in a BYOD enviroment. Android is such a pain in the ass when it comes to MDM. Even if the admin console is better, the amount of complaints and support tickets with Android is so high that we are just not support this anymore.

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Post by willyt »

barelysapient wrote: post #5

2TB of storage for $12 a month? Plus the multi-device management options? Sign me up.

Will it let me use icloud like dropbox? Would be good if those groups they show that can be added also provision an icloud synced shared folder in a predictable location. I love drawing on ipad, but there’s always a bit of friction getting stuff on and off. This would make working with ipad much smoother.

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Post by drcongo »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #168
drcongo wrote: post #114

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The ScreenTime feature for family members on iOS is an absolute car-crash. Not only is it almost impossible to find (it's not in Settings -> ScreenTime), but I'm endlessly impressed with the ways around it my daughter is able to find. I've recently noticed that she can use WhatsApp without limits just by launching it from the share sheet in Photos.

I wasn’t clear I mean physically take the device from them.

I was posting in support of your comment, sorry that wasn't clear.

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Post by supernovae »

vineyardmike wrote: post #274
supernovae wrote: post #264

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You do realize, that often times controls are put in place when the communications and trust has been violated right? Most people want to not give a shit, it's the kid forcing the response. Beyond that, The internet for a boy, is much different than the internet for a girl - your experience isn't the same as everyone elses and neither are the filters. We home school so some of the controls are just in place so they a…

> controls are put in place when the communications and trust has been violated right? Oh yes, i certainly broke trust of my parents, but mostly by bypassing controls they put. That deteriorated trust (and encouraged more trust-breaking) much faster than if the controls werent there.

So you're mad your parents blocked rape websites? Child Porn? Incest? Or are we talking about you're mad that they blocked youtube and twitch?? Which we don't? And i'm not talking about kids being interested in those, but sites where people try and perpetuate them and bait young girls with.

All blocks are not created equal here.

There are 10s of thousands of girls going through therapy, rehab, mental hospitals and such because of some of what is going around right now and much of the blocking is learning from parents who didn't and lost their kids to suicide or sex trade.

It all starts with a supposed nice 14 year old kid on discord who buys you a gift and turns out to be a grown ass man praying on girls who are susceptible to social issues - they're the ones boosting the servers and writing free advice and coming off as being helpful to teen issues but its all a big con... and that's just one channel of the absurdity. THe other is social pressures on tiktok and insta and their addictive properties - especially for young women. Unchecked/unbound you're asking for trouble for you and your kids.

Be a parent and let your parents parent.

Re: Business Essentials

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Post by supernovae »

skydhash wrote: post #281
supernovae wrote: post #264

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You do realize, that often times controls are put in place when the communications and trust has been violated right? Most people want to not give a shit, it's the kid forcing the response. Beyond that, The internet for a boy, is much different than the internet for a girl - your experience isn't the same as everyone elses and neither are the filters. We home school so some of the controls are just in place so they a…

The running joke in my country is that pastors’ children always round up to be delinquent in their teens. You won’t be able to completely control the environment of your child. The re will be a moment, when he/she will realize you do not know everything and your word, while important will be just a voice in many. It is very hard to resist temptation when you see people your age doing them without restrictions. I woul…

It's never been about complete control - or even control at all. It's about safety, health and wellbeing. As i mentioned to others - this isn't about blocking HBO max, youtube, twitch or steam. It's about safety against people praying on 13 year old girls and general computer safety blocking threats that nextdns blocks that every one should block.

The thing is, when kids grow up - they're gong to work at places that have blocks to ensure employee safety too and they're going to have to realize what they need to do to keep their kids safe

and the kids will hate it, as they have always hated it.

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Post by fsflover »

sbuk wrote: post #108
fsflover wrote: post #67

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Looking at the downvotes, it seems, it isn't. More info: https://www.cultofmac.com/230358/everything-you-need-to-know... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

The downvotes are coming because this has nothing to do with the topic at hand and you are both blatantly trying to start a flame war. You both have form on Apple threads. If they bother you that much, stop reading articles about them.

Apple advertises its "privacy" in the link. I am saying that the privacy is not included.

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Post by vineyardmike »

motohagiography wrote: post #278
vineyardmike wrote: post #254

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i largely agree with your points. I think the ousting (quitting?) of Ives is a sign that apple as an aesthetic force is ending, and the return to "logical" macs instead is a sign that they're reverting going too far. Its an acknowledgement that they have to do more than make pretty devices. I see a very similar path to luxury car brands for luxury electronics. A mix of status, comfort and performance. I wouldn't be s…

Smart. This raises an interesting question. Cars do one thing well, and we've turned them into extended rooms of our homes, so a $200k car can make sense. What is the thing personal computers/mobile devices do well for us as users that we can just dial it up and charge 10x for it? I don't know. Mine cryptocurrency? A fancier and more flattering filter bubble? An AI named Cyrano that identifies people and gives us tip…

> that we can just dial it up and charge 10x for it?

Maybe you don't get 10x but like cars we can use more expensive materials, more expensive parts (cameras, cpu cores, screen quality).

Materials:

Apple's base model apple watch is aluminum, while the higher tier is stainless steel. They also lock the neutral colors behind the higher price (which i think is annoying because color is not price dependent to make).

Performance: Think about Apple's $5k monitor - the "Pro display XDR" from a few years ago. Today, apple sells the $1k iPad pro with a "XDR display" based on the same tech. They figured out how to build it, then later figured out how to scale down the price and scale up the process.

Re: Business Essentials

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Post by vineyardmike »

numbsafari wrote: post #292
vineyardmike wrote: post #226

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> a competitor for Google Workspace. I think this is their obvious next move. They just launched iCloud email with custom domains for end users. That seems like an early battle-test for enterprise use cases. They already have alternative software to google docs too, so it could be an easy business to set up.

Completely agree. I think they have been slowly making moves into this space over the last 4-5 years (probably longer, but slowly gaining momentum in that time). I think my read on the new custom domain support is the same as yours. It's clearly a limited beta without the label. They are moving at a snails pace, but a lot of the pieces are there. Numbers is just garbage, though. If they want to seriously play in the…

> they need to fix it. They also need a simple database solution

I actually disagree. (improvements are always welcome though). There are so many different products in this space from MSFT to Google Docs, Quip, Confluence, Notion, etc. They're never going to actually make stuff for everyone.

Their move should just be to handle the licenses. My work buys all MSFT products, yet most people use quip docs instead. But we also pay for google docs, and confluence. Most places probs use more than one redundant tool, so you just need a "good enough" bundled-in tool.

If they can handle licenses and sales of the software, they can continue to collect their apple tax even if their app store gets trust-busted in the future. This can be a way to preserve app store revenue. Especially since businesses are whales compared to regular consumers.

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