Now they can successfully release this youtube rewind video that everyone disliked!
Making the dislike count private across YouTube
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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube
#592It's funny how differently people react to things. I look at this and think "there is nothing about Youtube that I find more useless than the dislike count, and I think this probably - on balance - a Good Thing." Everybody else seems to think it's an attack on the fundamental essence of all that is Right, Good, and Just in our universe. Weird... I never would have expected so much consternation about a dislike count.
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#593For the viewers (us), this is the opposite of what they should do. For us, they should be showing the up/down count ratio on the video preview link itself so we could easily identify the garbage videos without even having to click on them.
Of course this would reduce the amount of ads and pages they would serve to users, so it's in their interest to do everything they can to prevent users from being warned of time-wasting content.
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#594Since it's about to be hidden and unverifiable: Susan Wojcicki's "Freedom of Expression Award" (sponsored by Youtube) video currently has 227 upvotes, 56000 downvotes, and 185000 views. That's a 99.6% downvote ratio.
So in defense of keeping the dislikes pubic you are pointing to a video in which the dislike count is gamed by an Internet mob?
For whatever reason, I see a large majority down voting a video. I can then use my own judgement to speculate on the reasoning.
What's the "game"?
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#595Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…
The problem is people also use it as a propaganda tool to bury videos they don’t politically agree with. Normies have much lowered like/dislike button engagement so it’s a disservice to the vast majority.
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#596As usual, HN users are making lots of interesting assumptions (some comments to a conspiracy level) on the intention here... But in the reality, there are many smaller creators who is frequently being harassed by trolls (have you heard about those young Chinese patriots trolling over Korean and Japanese channels?) and one of their tool is the dislike button. And creators have been complaining about this for many year…
Seriously, the level of conspiracy-theory replies to this post is shocking. Like, this is below-reddit-level discourse. This is borderline Q stuff. And I know HN has moderation because I've been told off for flamewars. What gives?
your comment amounts to name-calling and adds little to no value to the conversation in comparison to the comments you want censored.
Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube
#597Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…
The problem is people also use it as a propaganda tool to bury videos they don’t politically agree with. Normies have much lowered like/dislike button engagement so it’s a disservice to the vast majority.
But youtube isn't removing the button or the signal from their algorithms - they are just removing the optics of having a disliked video (which a lot of users including myself found useful)
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#598just in time for youtube rewind, although they did mention they were not going to do it this year
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#599When videos counter to their narrative are disliked… dislike must be hidden. Time to give their algo some fun and massively like random videos
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#600By referring to the act of disliking the video as an "attack", they are framing this change as one which protects users, when in fact, only a small minority post videos, and a smaller portion among them are bothered by dislikes. In fact, the change is user-hostile, removing one channel for users to see whether a video is of low quality (inaccurate description, containing false information, etc.), and improving advert…
That isn't what they said at all. They are talking about actual attacks where a group of people share their objections to a video and encourage everyone to click on dislike. Do you really think that this kind of group objection should be sponsored and enabled?
But this is still possible. And it will still affect the ranking of the video, keeping it from being recommended.
They are keeping all the harmful implications and removing the only other use case, which is the quality signal to potential viewers (noisy as it is).