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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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When people are unable to express their disagreement with something in a civil way, they become uncivil. There is plenty of bad content on youtube that may not be against the law, but youtube allows it. I can quickly know if something is controversial by the like and dislikes.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #550

By referring to the act of disliking the video as an "attack", they are framing this change as one which protects users, when in fact, only a small minority post videos, and a smaller portion among them are bothered by dislikes. In fact, the change is user-hostile, removing one channel for users to see whether a video is of low quality (inaccurate description, containing false information, etc.), and improving advert…

That isn't what they said at all. They are talking about actual attacks where a group of people share their objections to a video and encourage everyone to click on dislike. Do you really think that this kind of group objection should be sponsored and enabled?

Do you think the only solution for that is to just delete the button, rather than do analysis on the downvoters and undo brigaded downvotes?

Isn't Google literally an AI company, and wouldn't this be entirely in their wheelhouse to work on?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#584

Since it's about to be hidden and unverifiable: Susan Wojcicki's "Freedom of Expression Award" (sponsored by Youtube) video currently has 227 upvotes, 56000 downvotes, and 185000 views. That's a 99.6% downvote ratio.

So in defense of keeping the dislikes pubic you are pointing to a video in which the dislike count is gamed by an Internet mob?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #67

Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…

It depends, stuff like videos critical of foreign countries political regime end up spammed by politically sponsored griefers to delegitimize them, exactly playing to your heuristic.

edit: :^)

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #550

By referring to the act of disliking the video as an "attack", they are framing this change as one which protects users, when in fact, only a small minority post videos, and a smaller portion among them are bothered by dislikes. In fact, the change is user-hostile, removing one channel for users to see whether a video is of low quality (inaccurate description, containing false information, etc.), and improving advert…

That isn't what they said at all. They are talking about actual attacks where a group of people share their objections to a video and encourage everyone to click on dislike. Do you really think that this kind of group objection should be sponsored and enabled?

Absolutely. Getting ratio'd is one of the few ways users have to express displeasure. They took away video replies, comments are often disabled, but they can't pretend everyone likes their video. At least they couldn't until now. That Verge PC build that would destroy your parts if you followed it? That horrible soulless YouTube Rewind? Logan Paul's "sorry I exploited suicide victims for views" video? Dislikes are a force for good. I can count the videos I've seen unfairly disliked on one hand.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #550

By referring to the act of disliking the video as an "attack", they are framing this change as one which protects users, when in fact, only a small minority post videos, and a smaller portion among them are bothered by dislikes. In fact, the change is user-hostile, removing one channel for users to see whether a video is of low quality (inaccurate description, containing false information, etc.), and improving advert…

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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#590
post #550

By referring to the act of disliking the video as an "attack", they are framing this change as one which protects users, when in fact, only a small minority post videos, and a smaller portion among them are bothered by dislikes. In fact, the change is user-hostile, removing one channel for users to see whether a video is of low quality (inaccurate description, containing false information, etc.), and improving advert…

You're right about the "attack" thing, but it would be no loss to remove the "Dislike" entirely.

I've seen random harmless videos (bit of classical music for instance) with many dislikes.

Same with Facebook btw. They should never have added anything over a mere "Like".

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