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A look at power on the new M1 Max

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Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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I understand price bracketing; I use that technique in my own products. I know it's not always apparent when immersed in highly technical communities, but there are a significant number of people who use their computers very casually. Not people who sit at a computer for hours, but people who open their computer to go to a website. Plenty of entirely computer literate people simply don't use tabs unless they click on…

So it's good for rich people who could be satisfied by a 12 year old dell but whom would like to display their status by spending 1000 to have the appropriate brand on the device they barely use?

Some people make purchase decisions using criteria other than technical utilitarianism alone. But there’s more than a few qualitative differences between any 12 year old Dell and a 2020 M1 Air other than being a status symbol.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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I wonder, is it actually competition? Apple will never sell any of their Chips to OEM partners so they will have to make do with whatever AMD, Intel, nVidia, Qualcomm, etc. sell. Will it actually lead to more people choosing a MacBook than any other Laptop? With these prices I‘m not so sure.

That kind of technology will leak through the whole industry. Either by hiring those very sought out CPU engineers, sharing processes and components, etc. Even if you cannot order OEM Apple Silicon chips it doesn't mean it won't directly change the whole industry. There is a significant percentage of people who are in the market for good laptops and that's enough market for companies like Intel to imitate Apple and s…

I get the "trickle-down effect", new ideas, engineers, etc. tend to get around but I remain sceptical that this will lead to the same incredible perf leap in other products. The iPhone with it's chips has been around quite a while the Apple Watch a bit less so but Qualcomm's chips still seem significantly behind. If this is wrong please do correct me, this is just my observation.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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That kind of technology will leak through the whole industry. Either by hiring those very sought out CPU engineers, sharing processes and components, etc. Even if you cannot order OEM Apple Silicon chips it doesn't mean it won't directly change the whole industry. There is a significant percentage of people who are in the market for good laptops and that's enough market for companies like Intel to imitate Apple and s…

I get the "trickle-down effect", new ideas, engineers, etc. tend to get around but I remain sceptical that this will lead to the same incredible perf leap in other products. The iPhone with it's chips has been around quite a while the Apple Watch a bit less so but Qualcomm's chips still seem significantly behind. If this is wrong please do correct me, this is just my observation.

I do not really know but I would bet Samsung and Qualcomm are working really hard at their chips to match Apple. And sure Apple has a 2+ year lead, especially for the Apple Watch, but I am also pretty sure that said companies are trying hard to snatch some engineers from Apple.

The great deal about ARM devices is not that they are "RISC". It's that they are open (as opposed to x86) and ARM does half of the work for you when you design the chips.

If Apple is really careful they will maintain their lead but if not I give it 5 years maximum till they are outmatched

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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It's great? it literally twice as fast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQdSHNmoIo https://twitter.com/_kzr/status/1402636826578362368

15 sec instead of 30? Great? My tournaround is 200 microseconds on Jetson Nano.

For a Mac book air m1 with 8gb or ram is 15 seconds. The Ryzen 9 is 25 seconds. I don't think you're paying attention to the content of the video and what's actually being measured. https://youtu.be/L4NbHk5f2Bs

> it cannot run things like Unity or Java Minecraft that require generic x86 CISC to run well.

It's pretty clear that unity runs fine and well on the lowest spec'ed M1 Mac.

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