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A look at power on the new M1 Max

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Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

#11
Honestly I find the potential for fanless “good enough” almost more exciting than the top end.

For most of my use cases computers these days are already “good enough” and apple pushing the bounds suggest to me that soon we’ll have chrome book class (and price) devices that don’t suck

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

#12
These power numbers are impressive. The memory bandwidth is also impressive. But one thing to watch for - just because the memory bandwidth is so good, don't skimp on memory.

The original M1 reviews in Feb 2021 convinced me to get an M1 Macbook Air with only 8GB of memory back in March. My brother-in-law who works for Apple hardware assured me it would be more than enough. Wrong - the machine was churning within a day or two of normal operation. Had to return it and stay with the Intel-based MBP.

A couple of weeks ago I ordered a 14" MBP with an M1 Max and 32GB of memory, which I expect will be an awesome dev machine.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

#13
I'm loving my M1 Mac mini. I use it mostly for recording and it's very nice for that.

I still have my big desktop, but if I was to start again I'd go Windows Laptop+ Mac Mini. Realistically I don't want to spend 2k on a laptop, it can ultimately be stolen , destroyed, might not last too long , etc.

But with a Mac Mini you buy into the Apple ecosystem at a fairly low price.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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post #12

These power numbers are impressive. The memory bandwidth is also impressive. But one thing to watch for - just because the memory bandwidth is so good, don't skimp on memory. The original M1 reviews in Feb 2021 convinced me to get an M1 Macbook Air with only 8GB of memory back in March. My brother-in-law who works for Apple hardware assured me it would be more than enough. Wrong - the machine was churning within a da…

Unfortunately you might have a nice 4gb for dev work after WindowServer takes 28gb :(

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No matter whether you're a fan of ARM, amd64, or something else, this helps everyone. The leaps that Intel, AMD and NVIDIA will have to take to even just stay in the same range as Apple will help everyone. Competition is good!

I see Qualcomm to be a better competitor to Apple. They already have experience building custom cores and NUVIA acquisition should help with performance. x86(Even Ryzen) is hardly as power efficient as ARM.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

#17

It is good for industry in the long term. With all the rumors, obviously I can't wait for Microsoft to release a Surface of their own with fanless design and custom chips.

They already have an ARM Surface model I think it is called X.

The one I played with for a while was first gen using Microsofts ARM chip. SQ1.

A much slower design than the M1 for sure, but I wonder if they can do better in the next generation. I am not sure if SQ2 is out yet.

I know they got really busy once the M1 came out.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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post #2

No matter whether you're a fan of ARM, amd64, or something else, this helps everyone. The leaps that Intel, AMD and NVIDIA will have to take to even just stay in the same range as Apple will help everyone. Competition is good!

I wonder, is it actually competition? Apple will never sell any of their Chips to OEM partners so they will have to make do with whatever AMD, Intel, nVidia, Qualcomm, etc. sell. Will it actually lead to more people choosing a MacBook than any other Laptop? With these prices I‘m not so sure.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

#20
I measured the Gflops/W and the big cores give 2.5 which compared to f.ex. raspberry 4 at 2 is not revolutionary.

What gives the M1 an edge is also it's weakest point: proprietary designs, it cannot run things like Unity or Java Minecraft that require generic x86 CISC to run well.

From my perspective the only hope apple has is linux reverse engineering the GPU to allow OpenGL.

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