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Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by ouid »

megous wrote: post #310
thaumasiotes wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a couple of days ago, I signed in to a gmail account using the correct username and password. Gmail intercepted me and claimed to be worried that they couldn't recognize the device I was using. According to the flow, they wanted me to verify my identity in one of three ways: (1) I could verify the backup email address associated with the account; (2) if unable to do that, I could provide the 2FA code sent to tha…

It's especially nice when traveling. I was once asked by a client to do something while I was in other country about 5k km from regular location. Couldn't login to the apps account for this reason (no backup email or phone set). So I didn't do the work. I suspect it's some work-life balance enhancing thing. :D I don't really mind, since it also helps me bash Google services in front of my clients who still use them,…

I wouldn't rely on printing out cash, that can get you in trouble.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by ouid »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #331
megous wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's especially nice when traveling. I was once asked by a client to do something while I was in other country about 5k km from regular location. Couldn't login to the apps account for this reason (no backup email or phone set). So I didn't do the work. I suspect it's some work-life balance enhancing thing. :D I don't really mind, since it also helps me bash Google services in front of my clients who still use them,…

If you look at the gmail login page, you may notice that they specifically recommend you sign in in incognito mode when using a device that doesn't belong to you. Their expressed policy makes an interesting contrast with their behavioral policy of freaking out and locking you out of your own account if you ever try to sign in on a device they suspect might not belong to you. And of course, they're godawful at recogni…

I imagine it has nothing to do with security and is more about tracking. A similar failure mode with apple is that I essentially need to own two apple products with the same account to accomplish things that should only need one apple product, like making a free download from the app store.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by numpad0 »

errantspark wrote: post #279
mindslight wrote: post #266

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AFAIK cell modems generally have functionality to send/receive SMSs, and you should be able to do that with the right software. Completely agree about the walls of commercial surveillance closing in though.

Yeah, I'm sure it's possible to do so, but unfortunately my BIOS locks me into the OEM modem, there is no linux driver for it and the windows one is not documented so no luck for me in that regard. At some point I'll pour some more sweat into it and try to unlock the bios or something but sadly for now this functionality that my computer absolutely has is unavailable to me. Same with getting NMEA sentences off the GP…

Whatever comes with should work mostly fine, whitelist unlocks are for those didn’t option a WWAN. All WWAN modems are same, usually they have 3-5 serial ports for modem control, data, debug, and NMEA. My hunch is your ttyS2 takes “GPS enable” command and it’ll start murmuring it on ttyS4.

Refs:

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/sierra_advanced_gps

https://forum.openwrt.org/t/problem-accessing-gps-data-from-...

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mobile-broadband/ModemManager...

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by Kaze404 »

Gigachad wrote: post #339
int_19h wrote: post #247

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On pretty much any other web page, Ctrl+F will search whatever is on the page; why should Discourse be any different? I don't mind them having a server-side search function that actually searches the entire thread. I do mind having a heavily-used shortcut hijacked to behave in a non-standard way.

Because to remain performant, modem sites remove elements that have been scrolled too far off the page. So native ctrl + f would not be searching very much at all. I don't see the problem with this tbh. When you create a JS app, you lose a lot of the native features of the browser and it becomes your own responsibility to reimplement them in a correct way. As long as the site pulls it off flawlessly, this is ok to me…

> to remain performant, modem sites remove elements that have been scrolled too far off the page

This is done to remain performant specifically when the website thinks infinite scrolling is a good idea. In my experience it very rarely is, with the Ctrl+F thing being just one of the reasons why.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by geektips »

zippergz wrote: post #423
thaumasiotes wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a couple of days ago, I signed in to a gmail account using the correct username and password. Gmail intercepted me and claimed to be worried that they couldn't recognize the device I was using. According to the flow, they wanted me to verify my identity in one of three ways: (1) I could verify the backup email address associated with the account; (2) if unable to do that, I could provide the 2FA code sent to tha…

I had this problem this week too. I have a secondary Gmail account that is forwarded to my main one. I tried to login to it, they demanded a phone number (even though I do have access to the backup email), and wouldn't let me in because the only number I have is one that's already in use on my main account. I guess now you need one unique fully-functional phone number for ever Google account you have?!

I think you can verify 6 Google accounts with a single number.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by qPM9l3XJrF »

jraph wrote: post #182

Please don't ask people to run non-free software to participate in your open source community. Many open source / free software enthusiasts are reluctant to use them, or flat out boycott them. What's more, you are putting your worthy community somewhere out of your control if you do this. Slack and Discord are not cool and do not make your project cool. They make your project unreachable , now and in the future (arch…

>Just pick something already old-fashioned today but that somehow does not die.

Sounds great. Do people have recs here?

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by numpad0 »

dreyfan wrote: post #108
danr4 wrote: post #28

As discussed in a recent comment I made [0], I think the problem is that a good modern forum software simply does not exist yet. imo discourse doesn't cut it, feels almost as ephemeral as in slack/discord. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29016033

I've yet to see a forum software that works as well as vBulletin and the clones of that did in the early to mid 2000s. Everything today is this weird "conversation" view and comments/threads constantly move around based on the whims of a voting audience.

As someone grew up with 2ch forum(terrible place) I don’t get why vB gets such a high praise. Too much wasted screen real estate and already overcomplicated.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by mdaniel »

xpe wrote: post #282
danr4 wrote: post #28

As discussed in a recent comment I made [0], I think the problem is that a good modern forum software simply does not exist yet. imo discourse doesn't cut it, feels almost as ephemeral as in slack/discord. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29016033

Zulip [1] is open source and (IMO) fantastic. [1]: https://github.com/zulip

Zulip is also, last I checked, the only ones who offer completely free, archive-enabled, hosted chat for open source projects ( https://zulip.com/for/open-source/ ). Mattermost has some kind of "out of the kindness of our heart" setup, but it requires applying for it ( https://docs.mattermost.com/about/license-and-subscription.h... ), and Slack appears to actually retain the archive content, but only makes it available for those who pay

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by curun1r »

gizdan wrote: post #222

I just wish people would use a system that's integrated into where the code is. I don't want to have to register for a forum when GitHub has a perfectly good ticketing system (and now discussions), and yet I have to register at another place where my details can be leaked from because who knows the technical capability of this one single person who may or may not have done any security. If it's a company, please have…

I’m a believer in just creating a subreddit. It’s free and easy, many people already have Reddit accounts and it’s a much better forum than the ones that would be self-hosted, including moderation tooling and bot ecosystem. The threaded discussions are also better than what Github offers.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by dcow »

donmcronald wrote: post #234
KennyBlanken wrote: post #151

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Yep, the latest example was my credit card company rejecting my GV number. They easily have the means to see that I've been using it for 10+ years and it's definitely me. Luckily they wanted my business more than they cared about that policy; a CS droid was able to "force" the system to allow it. Requiring cell phone numbers isn't about anti-spam or 2FA or anything else these services and sites claim. It's about link…

It's 100% about linking identities between services. I've had my cell phone number for 25 years. It's basically a lifelong identifier at this point and I constantly have to use it for low value online accounts. I wish I could go back 10 years and get a dedicated phone number for online verification. The security side is a total lie as well. Your post made me think about the biggest risk for myself and, like many peop…

It’s the new SSN but even less private.
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