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Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by keyb0ardninja »

jraph wrote: post #182

Please don't ask people to run non-free software to participate in your open source community. Many open source / free software enthusiasts are reluctant to use them, or flat out boycott them. What's more, you are putting your worthy community somewhere out of your control if you do this. Slack and Discord are not cool and do not make your project cool. They make your project unreachable , now and in the future (arch…

> Please don't ask people to run non-free software to participate in your open source community.

Doesn't that imply the end of all macOS related projects? Not that I'm complaining, I'm actually very surprised by the amount of effort individuals put in to open source efforts (such as homebrew) to support a proprietary closed platform like macOS.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by tapland »

sergiotapia wrote: post #382
jraph wrote: post #182

Please don't ask people to run non-free software to participate in your open source community. Many open source / free software enthusiasts are reluctant to use them, or flat out boycott them. What's more, you are putting your worthy community somewhere out of your control if you do this. Slack and Discord are not cool and do not make your project cool. They make your project unreachable , now and in the future (arch…

I own two fairly popular github projects (2.4k and 500 stars) - I have a Discord server. What do you recommend for me? I don't want to spend a penny on hosting this since it's a for fun project.

I think just putting g some effort I to keeping a FAQ on the repo up to date with things people run into and post on discord is a great solution.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by zippergz »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #212
errantspark wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I constantly run into this problem, I've used my google voice number for everything for years (yeah it's not a great move but very hard to migrate away from) and a frustrating number of services recently have been rejecting it for verification. I end up having to take the sim out of my laptop and put it in my PinePhone. It's such a hassle. This whole "you're not a human unless you have a phone number" thing sucks. Sa…

Just a couple of days ago, I signed in to a gmail account using the correct username and password. Gmail intercepted me and claimed to be worried that they couldn't recognize the device I was using. According to the flow, they wanted me to verify my identity in one of three ways: (1) I could verify the backup email address associated with the account; (2) if unable to do that, I could provide the 2FA code sent to tha…

I had this problem this week too. I have a secondary Gmail account that is forwarded to my main one. I tried to login to it, they demanded a phone number (even though I do have access to the backup email), and wouldn't let me in because the only number I have is one that's already in use on my main account. I guess now you need one unique fully-functional phone number for ever Google account you have?!

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by thewebcount »

errantspark wrote: post #82
jedberg wrote: post #70

Oh please do. This seems like the perfect time to bring this up: I had a piece of software that used Discord for support. They required that users be verified, which requires you to give you phone number to Discord. I gave them my Google Voice number, which is the only number I have, and they rejected it because they don't support VOIP numbers. I asked them if there was any other way to verify my identity. They told…

I constantly run into this problem, I've used my google voice number for everything for years (yeah it's not a great move but very hard to migrate away from) and a frustrating number of services recently have been rejecting it for verification. I end up having to take the sim out of my laptop and put it in my PinePhone. It's such a hassle. This whole "you're not a human unless you have a phone number" thing sucks. Sa…

> This whole "you're not a human unless you have a phone number" thing sucks.

Oh it’s even worse than that. I have a land line that I use exclusively for when I’m forced to give a phone number (and also for faxing doctors and lawyers which is apparently still a thing). Many internet forms reject it because it can’t accept text messages. Yeah, that’s the fucking point. I don’t want text messages from your shitty service. It’s still a legitimate phone number you can call. Don’t ask for a phone number if you won’t actually accept a valid phone number! FFS!

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by vmception »

wolverine876 wrote: post #343
vmception wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually found it hysterical. The phone number question seems to be for their data mining as well as evidence. But anyone can get into any email address when prompted this way. It is possible to send a text to someone else's phone, the servers connected to phones online are often polluted but many times they are not. You can send a text to those and get the code. Or of course, just send the code to anyone and SS…

> the servers connected to phones online are often polluted What does this mean?

there are websites or chatbots that will give you a phone number and show you the text responses it receives

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by mdaniel »

govg wrote: post #349
zamadatix wrote: post #334

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How does this work for Fi users? I've had a Google Voice number for so long it's the only voice number I have these days. I can't say it's a recent experience that it doesn't work with certain things though it has been a recent experience the things are aware it doesn't work and will alert you. Overall though I've yet to run into anything I couldn't use an alternative method for authentication be it luck (e.g. got in…

I'm not sure if there are any issues on Google Fi, since they're an MVNO, so identical to any other cellular network.

As one point of anecdata, the IRS refused to honor my Fi phone plan because it didn't have my name and mailing address registered on it (or at least to their satisfaction). I don't know if they still require a post-paid cell phone plan for their auth scheme or not, because I gave up trying to make it through after about 6 months of requesting magic codes through the USPS

Anyway, that's a lot of words to say "MVNO" is for sure not identical to "any other cellular network" for a certain class of interested parties, in the same way that pre-paid credit cards are not the same as other credit cards

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by vymague »

int_19h wrote: post #132
Zababa wrote: post #96

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Infinite scrolling on the threads combined with a very slow loading. A thread of 30 replies will not load everything, even though 30 replies is probably less than 1Mb of data.

On the desktop, it also hijacks standard browser shortcuts such as Ctrl+F.

This drives me crazy. I feel not enough people are complaining about this. Is finding text from the currently-loaded discussion such a niche thing?

I second the other comments, XenForo is the best currently.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by masoodkamandy »

I agree with the OP for open-source projects, but I thought I’d share what a great thing Discord has been for my first year programming students. They share questions, glitch screenshots, and interesting websites. They are also able to get help on simple problems quickly. More often than not they help each other before I can answer their questions. I know the OP is about open source projects, so I’m not sure if it’s totally relevant, but I thought I’d share how much it has helped my students foster community, get immediate help, and feel more comfortable as they learn to program. They wouldn’t feel comfortable or ready to post to a forum and my Discord server provides a safe space to get started.

Re: Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community

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Post by Kaze404 »

imwillofficial wrote: post #311
Buttons840 wrote: post #243

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Meanwhile the community is having a big debate over the CoC, deciding what exact wording they should use to say "be nice and include everyone".

Why just communities be forced to accept everyone? Or even be nice? When in a group of friends we can often times not “be nice” however because we know each other, we understand it comes from a place of love. Perhaps it’s a military background thing, but exclusivity has its benefits.

Because we're not friends.
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