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Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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post #18

Google, Amazon etc. already have contracts with other authoritarian governments like Qatar, Singapore, India and Indonesia. So what is the problem with cooperating with Israel?

What is the scope of the contracts that you mention?

I believe that the problem is cooperation with Israeli military, not with the Israel itself. There was a backlash against Maven, a similar contract with the US government.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#52
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah israel has a great human rights record if you ignore their treatment of palestinians and other minorities.

Israel has palestinians and arabs as part of its government, and they can get citizenship and full rights. Is the reverse true anywhere else in the middle east? Can Jews get citizenship and participate in government in any middle eastern country?

Except the ones that live in Gaza and the West Bank, right?

And just because they have some representation in government, doesn't mean they don't get treated as second-class citizens.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#53
post #5

These employees shouldn't have a privileged voice in international politics. It isn't at all fair, whether or whether not people agree with their stance.

Why not? Everything is up for negotiation. If the employees are that in demand, then they will have a “privileged” voice. If not, they will get terminated and not matter.

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Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#54
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah israel has a great human rights record if you ignore their treatment of palestinians and other minorities.

Israel has palestinians and arabs as part of its government, and they can get citizenship and full rights. Is the reverse true anywhere else in the middle east? Can Jews get citizenship and participate in government in any middle eastern country?

Jewish people, or anyone in fact, can't just pitch up, enclose some land and build a settlement, and then claim citizenship over it in other countries in the region, no.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#55

I notice how whenever there is anything remotely negative about israel on HN or reddit, the shills come out. The script is always the same (only democracy in the middle east, our greatest ally, the US gets more from them than the other way around, etc.) At this point I have to wonder if JIDF are real and not just a 4chan meme or these are some advanced GPT-3 sockpuppet accounts.

Are all people holding opposing view point shills?

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#56
post #32

Regardless of your stance on the subject, anyone else thinks this phrasing feels really...off? "Several of them renounce the anonymity of the petition and at the same time reveal their Semitic nationality ." I have never heard Israeli citizenship being described that way, and later in the article they explain it doesn't even mean that but "Jewish background" which somehow makes that phrasing sound even worse? EDIT: m…

I assume they mean Arabs and others

Arab isn't a nationality (neither is Jewish), and if you read further they explained they mean "Jewish background".

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#57
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? Everything is up for negotiation. If the employees are that in demand, then they will have a “privileged” voice. If not, they will get terminated and not matter.

I don't believe refusing to work due to a company's politics, is viable protected status. Nor is protesting the company you work for. Or, even in most cases showing the company in a bad light. The current trend will change, 100%. Hands down, there's feast and famine, regardless of the job. On top of that, there are raises, promotions, and opportunities. I guarantee you, those getting the best raises, opportunities, t…

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Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#58
post #50

Israel is a wonderful country. Scientifically advanced, progressively minded, a bastion of secularism, LGBT rights, and western ideals. The world is, sadly, obsessed with them. I'd love a real explanation why they get so much undue attention given how they behave towards their enemies. Israel drops leaflets before bombing so civilians can clear out. When Hamas stores weapons in schools and Hospitals, Israel exercises…

If you genuinely want to understand criticism of Israel, the Wikipedia article for Israel is a good starting place. I am not being flip or sarcastic – you are repeating a lot of nationalist propaganda and may benefit from a different perspective.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#59
post #6

It’s hard to think of a country in the Middle East with more rights and freedoms or a better human rights record. I know I’ll get a lot of downvotes for saying that, but what I’d like is an objective measure on which another country in the area beats Israel

Yeah israel has a great human rights record if you ignore their treatment of palestinians and other minorities.

I was looking for an objective measure. Obviously Israel is not perfect, but is there any metric on which a country in the middle east beats Israel? Like surely there's some microstate that at least has a functioning democracy, gay rights, religious freedom, etc? Perhaps Iraq post-invasion?

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#60
post #50

Israel is a wonderful country. Scientifically advanced, progressively minded, a bastion of secularism, LGBT rights, and western ideals. The world is, sadly, obsessed with them. I'd love a real explanation why they get so much undue attention given how they behave towards their enemies. Israel drops leaflets before bombing so civilians can clear out. When Hamas stores weapons in schools and Hospitals, Israel exercises…

But unlike every other nation on Earth, they took over land belonging to others!

In case people don't notice, that's extreme sarcasm.

Every nation on Earth has taken over others, just look at the native peoples of every country in North and South America, of Nordic Countries, Australia.

Look at how Europe's borders were re-written 1000 times. Africa. The Middle East.

If the beef is (and it seems to be for some) that they "took land", get over it. Because where you live "took land" too.

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