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Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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post #18

Google, Amazon etc. already have contracts with other authoritarian governments like Qatar, Singapore, India and Indonesia. So what is the problem with cooperating with Israel?

Why not focus on the problem/issue on its own?

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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post #18

Google, Amazon etc. already have contracts with other authoritarian governments like Qatar, Singapore, India and Indonesia. So what is the problem with cooperating with Israel?

India has many problems, and the current government isn't great. But it isn't authoritarian.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#44
post #32

Regardless of your stance on the subject, anyone else thinks this phrasing feels really...off? "Several of them renounce the anonymity of the petition and at the same time reveal their Semitic nationality ." I have never heard Israeli citizenship being described that way, and later in the article they explain it doesn't even mean that but "Jewish background" which somehow makes that phrasing sound even worse? EDIT: m…

I assume they mean Arabs and others

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#45
post #5

These employees shouldn't have a privileged voice in international politics. It isn't at all fair, whether or whether not people agree with their stance.

Why not? Everything is up for negotiation. If the employees are that in demand, then they will have a “privileged” voice. If not, they will get terminated and not matter.

I don't believe refusing to work due to a company's politics, is viable protected status. Nor is protesting the company you work for. Or, even in most cases showing the company in a bad light.

The current trend will change, 100%. Hands down, there's feast and famine, regardless of the job. On top of that, there are raises, promotions, and opportunities.

I guarantee you, those getting the best raises, opportunities, those kept on in times of famine, won't be those making Corp X look bad. And they won't be those making life difficult.

And when things are public, a quick bit of research into a potential employee will show they're "troublesome". It doesn't even matter if the politics are align, because, one day that employee might disagree with the corp, and then they are likely to be a problem.

So slate up future career options as reduced, too.

Note, I'm not saying that one shouldn't take ideological stances, just that people are living in a fantasy land, if they think it won't effect them.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#46
post #3

Nowadays I take a look at the person's Twitter after reading their resume, just to see if they'd be more trouble than they're worth. I've passed on several candidates over the past few years because of the utterly imbecilic stuff they posted online. Why Google is not doing the same is a mystery to me. They already run background checks, and political affiliation, for better or worse, is not a protected class. Go be a…

this is actively harmful for a democratic society. Raising your voice is the way to influence societies action. The economy is part of society and governed by its rules and thoughts. There would be no environmental laws without environmental activist, civil rights laws without civil rights activist etc. Ignoring this means ignoring the political side of you economic actions, but companies don't operate in a political…

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Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#47
post #7

I wonder what level of cognitive dissonance one must live with to work for a surveillance capitalist company while constantly taking activist stances against which customers that company works with.

I've always wondered how META employees justify their work, funnily enough they never seem to answer when asked, they just downvote to hide the question and move on.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#48
post #6

It’s hard to think of a country in the Middle East with more rights and freedoms or a better human rights record. I know I’ll get a lot of downvotes for saying that, but what I’d like is an objective measure on which another country in the area beats Israel

Rights and freedoms for whom?

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Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

#49
post #32

Regardless of your stance on the subject, anyone else thinks this phrasing feels really...off? "Several of them renounce the anonymity of the petition and at the same time reveal their Semitic nationality ." I have never heard Israeli citizenship being described that way, and later in the article they explain it doesn't even mean that but "Jewish background" which somehow makes that phrasing sound even worse? EDIT: m…

To defend against being labeled anti-semitic one reveals one is of semitic nationality.

Re: Google Employees Oppose Company's Cooperation with Israel

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Israel is a wonderful country. Scientifically advanced, progressively minded, a bastion of secularism, LGBT rights, and western ideals. The world is, sadly, obsessed with them. I'd love a real explanation why they get so much undue attention given how they behave towards their enemies.

Israel drops leaflets before bombing so civilians can clear out.

When Hamas stores weapons in schools and Hospitals, Israel exercises extreme caution to minimize casualties.

Israel is the only country in the world with the self restraint to not destroy a neighbor that constantly fires rockets at them.

Next time you criticize Israel, think about how it would feel to have rockets raining down on your children, your loved ones, co workers, friends for no reason other than the fact that you exist.

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