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I am wondering what it would take to seriously fork Firefox (like the MySQL/MariaDB fork), if there is so much discontent with Firefox in the HN community?

There are complainers and there are doers. Seldom both. Put all the HN complainers in a room, and they would spend the next year arguing about their browser's new name, not ever doing any actual work on it.

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post #303

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> Everyone had equal rights to marry also before... Well that's just not true.

It is true. It is just that who they wanted to marry was not whom they had the right to marry. A gay man had the right to marry a woman just as much as a straight man had.

>It is just that who they wanted to marry was not whom they had the right to marry.

Which inherently makes it an unequal right.

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post #303

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It is true. It is just that who they wanted to marry was not whom they had the right to marry. A gay man had the right to marry a woman just as much as a straight man had.

>It is just that who they wanted to marry was not whom they had the right to marry. Which inherently makes it an unequal right.

No it is equal. Everyone can marry according to the definition of what a marriage is (was). It is just that some people have preferences that don't align with that. But it is no different than if someone polygamous want to marry several women. Their preference don't align with what marriage is defined as, but they have exactly the same rights.

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> People who've used Firefox in the past have done so because they want an alterative - not more of the same. Exactly! Despite of all the telemetry Mozilla still has absolutely zero clue who their core audience actually is, because they sure as hell are set on decimating what's left of it.

But why? It's bizarre. It's almost as if moles from other browser manufacturers have been smuggled surreptitiously onto Mozilla's staff to sabotage the Firefox project.

Or maybe, just maybe, people have a different opinion to yourself about how Mozilla can succeed.

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>-"Mozilla is run by a bunch of SJW idiots because they ran their CEO off. So now I run Brave." (I had to look into this, as I wasn't paying attention at the time. They picked a new CEO who cared so passionately about removing the right of gay people to get married he even donated his own money to the cause. That was a dumb hill to die on. Now he's an anti-masker who actually runs Brave.) It wasn't a hill to die on,…

And a point which doesn't get brought up often is that he was somewhat controversial before any of that came out. There were multiple resignations from the board when he was picked as CEO.

You mean the same board that appointed him? This whole "the board all resigned because they were so upset about their own appointment" narrative is mostly nonsense.

AIUI (I was an employee at the time), there was one resignation because of that. The rest were already planned.

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As luck would have it: it's inferior in most aspects. Security, Usability (UI, responsiveness), Performance, Defaults (Privacy)...

And don't forget support for the latest Web APIs. Fewer and fewer new, heavy web-apps work on it. I love everything else about Firefox but if they can't keep up on the API side it's going to increasingly impede my workflow.

This is not 100% fair.

A lot of web APIs are rolled out by Google without sufficient standardization or agreement from the other organizations that ship engines. So Google is being a poor citizen here, but because of their dominance, everybody else is blamed.

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I sort of thought we had had this discussion already. Gay people don’t have heterosexual relationships in the same way a straight person does, yes they are free to marry, but not in the way they’d actually want to. Also the very best you can get to about marriage as a traditional even religious institution is maybe the government shouldn’t be running it. Thinking otherwise isn’t just an opinion a bit out of the mains…

> Can you imagine if he’d donated to a cause that was against inter racial marriages? That is not the same thing and is far from the point I am making. It would be the same thing if he argued, "gay people can't marry, period". But an argument that "marriage is a life long commitment between a man and a woman" is something different. Not about gay people, it is about marriage as an institution with a special status. N…

But the point I'm making is that being against interracial marriage, even if it were somehow just about something like marriage is definitionally not interracial would rightly be considered cancelable to most people. The reason I think that the examples seem different is merely that their badness seems different to you. There isn't some set of things that are clearly ok to sanction someone over and some set that aren't. It's all merely about how clearcut you think the issue is and that will always be political.

To be clear though I do think this is a clear cut issue. Not to get into the weeds on it, but I do think your options are either believing that marriage should not be a function of government at all, or believing that marriage between two same sex people should be allowed

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Heads up, you may lose your tabs when you update. It seems normal tab restoring procedures apply, but if you collect many like me, it means an initial shock of reloading all of them. "I lost my tabs after the update — What can I do? You may notice that after updating Firefox to version 94, the tabs from your previous session were closed. To learn how to restore a previous session, visit How do I restore my tabs from…

I just did the update with about 20 tabs open. They all restored fine but they were sort of "unloaded". That didn't cause any issues for me though.

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I recently switched from Chrome back to Firefox after the news about Google forcing people to stay logged-in to Chrome for tracking purposes. I’ve switched in the past but always ended up switching back for one reason or another. This time I’ve actually been very happy with it and don’t think I’ll switch back soon. Better in Firefox: * Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in recently-used order. Just like Cmd+Tab. This featu…

Ctrl+Tab recent order is an options in the settings in firefox. Not sure if this is on be default. I got used to this feature from VS Code. Lovely to have it in Firefox!

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post #236

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Mozilla "inside agent" here. (Not really, but I work for Mozilla. Don't speak for them etc.) I didn't consider downvoting, but since you mentioned it below it would kind of make sense, since much of what you say here is objectively false. But you're raising legitimate concerns, so I have no reason to prevent your post from being seen. Mozilla is very open about what is collected, and all of it can be turned off. We'd…

First, I actually do respect your views and I'm pleased you've had the fortitude to responded as such. To respond adequately to your post would require me to start detailing what I (and many others) reckon what's wrong with Firefox (and similarly so with Thunderbird). Clearly that's not very practical here, as to do so we'd be bogged down in detail and the key points of the argument would be lost. That said and not w…

Apology! Please ignore this post and read the corrected one. I hadn't realized it was there until it was too late to delete it. Not being able to delete a post when there are no replies isn't the most cleaver of ideas in my opinion.

Incidentally, the problem occurred when I was editing the text and I responded too quickly to a page that wasn't appearing to update. The server responded with a one-line message to the effect that it hadn't uppated the text and whatever I did next somehow created a duplicate.

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