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Re: Firefox 94

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Post by Maxious »

jatone wrote: post #91
gameswithgo wrote: post #31

It has made me really sad that I have had to quite using Firefox, as I've enjoyed the technical improvements they have been making, but the new ads in the address bar thing is just non negotiable, I will not be a part of that.

thats news to me.... you sure some extension you installed isn't adding them?

> Firefox Suggest sends Mozilla search terms and information about engagement with Firefox Suggest, some of which may be shared with partners to provide and improve the suggested content.

https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2021/09/15/data-and-firefox-su...

> To deliver smarter contextual suggestions, Firefox will need to send Mozilla new data, specifically, what you type into the search bar, city-level location data to know what’s nearby and relevant, as well as whether you click on a suggestion and which suggestion you click on.

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/fi...

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by hulitu »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #80
hoseja wrote: post #10

>On Windows, there will now be fewer interruptions because Firefox won’t prompt you for updates. Instead, a background agent will download and install updates even if Firefox is closed. How considerate of them, I felt I didn't have enough auto-updating background agents yet.

IMO this is the correct behavior. Programs should never bother the user with prompts or interruptions of any sort unless absolutely necessary. "Do you want to install this security-critical update to your computer's largest attack surface?" does not rise to that level. The answer is obviously yes, so just do it and don't bother the user. There's probably an advanced setting buried somewhere if you _really_ want to tu…

Do you want to install this backdoor ? No, installing the so called updates in background will not be alowed.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by namero999 »

hoseja wrote: post #10

>On Windows, there will now be fewer interruptions because Firefox won’t prompt you for updates. Instead, a background agent will download and install updates even if Firefox is closed. How considerate of them, I felt I didn't have enough auto-updating background agents yet.

To remove this task, open Task Scheduler, you will find a new Mozilla folder under "Task scheduled library" where you can disable or delete it. Will probably come back next update.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by hilbert42 »

huhtenberg wrote: post #110
hilbert42 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about this version but at least one could uninstall the maintenance service. It was the first thing I'd nuke before allowing my PC to reconnect to the internet, the second was to nuke every talk-home-Mozilla link that about:config would allow to either be changed or deleted. This worked, as updates wouldn't even work when clicking 'updates' in the menu. Mozilla has a damned hide to automate updates, not…

> People who've used Firefox in the past have done so because they want an alterative - not more of the same. Exactly! Despite of all the telemetry Mozilla still has absolutely zero clue who their core audience actually is, because they sure as hell are set on decimating what's left of it.

But why?

It's bizarre. It's almost as if moles from other browser manufacturers have been smuggled surreptitiously onto Mozilla's staff to sabotage the Firefox project.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by ct0 »

ProAm wrote: post #81
hoseja wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this distinct from keyboard-navigating to it and pressing Shift+Del?

Yeah doesn't work. That's the bug

click and hold the suggestion with the mouse, and tap Shift + Delete.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by Taywee »

suprfsat wrote: post #123
nanis wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there no one with a clue at Mozilla? How much worse can they make this browser? If I wanted an auto-updating key-logging tool on my systems, I'd have sold my soul to Chrome already. I had upgraded before seeing this ... In preferences, you have the following options: > Allow Firefox to: > -------------------------------------------------------- > [x] Automatically install updates (recommended) > [ ] Check for upda…

Is it actually key-logging or are you just making things up

There is no key-logging, but there is some keystroke leaking in particular circumstances (specifically, typing in the unified address bar, by default, leaks the first word by pinging DNS repeatedly when you don't have spaces).

Unfortunately, taking things completely out of context and editorializing the facts is par for the course. Discourse is getting very disingenuous.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by jwatt »

gameswithgo wrote: post #31

It has made me really sad that I have had to quite using Firefox, as I've enjoyed the technical improvements they have been making, but the new ads in the address bar thing is just non negotiable, I will not be a part of that.

Mozilla support doc on controlling this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/navigate-web-faster-fir...

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by ntp85 »

FriedrichN wrote: post #114
ranger_danger wrote: post #76

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So independent all their funding is provided by Google.

Not all, some funding is. >Last year, more than 400,000 individuals gave to Mozilla to protect and improve the health of the Internet. The Mozilla Foundation also receives support in the form of grants from other like-minded major foundations, including the Knight, MacArthur, Bill & Melinda Gates, and Ford foundations.

But the foundation is not responsible for Firefox development, isn't it? It's the corporation which can't be supported through donations iirc.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by jitl »

handrous wrote: post #122
jitl wrote: post #88

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To be competitive with Chrome and Safari, Firefox needs the following table stakes: - Excellent performance and reliability. Quantum delivered a lot of performance wins, and work continues at a rapid rate on reliability. Unfortunately, to be competitive on performance and reliability given Mozilla's funding required dropping XUL :( - A simplified, modern UI. It's fair to argue about specifics here like "tabs as butto…

> - A simplified, modern UI. It's fair to argue about specifics here like "tabs as buttons", but not about simplification overall. This may frustrate power users, but power users are the vast minority. 1) Being amazing for power users and also everyone else is why power users did all their marketing work for them in the Phoenix/Firebird days and installed it on every computer they were allowed access to for more than…

I started installing Firefox on relative's computers because it was more secure than IE6. I switched to installing Chrome on relative's computers because it was more secure than Firefox. With this release's changes to auto-update policy, I think Firefox is once again the most responsible choice to install for users who aren't interesting in making that kind of choice for themselves.

Re: Firefox 94

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Post by jabroni_salad »

hoseja wrote: post #10

>On Windows, there will now be fewer interruptions because Firefox won’t prompt you for updates. Instead, a background agent will download and install updates even if Firefox is closed. How considerate of them, I felt I didn't have enough auto-updating background agents yet.

I think we can thank Microsoft for this, leaving us without a decent package manager for decades. Here's to hoping that Winget is the panacea.
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