Women are rejecting marriage in Asia. The social implications are serious.

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:33 AM UTC

bobo888 wrote: post #29

sliverstorm wrote: post #16

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Now hold on there. Just because the employed member of the family puts in 60+ hours per week at the office doesn't mean they should do any less work around the house...

Whaaat? So are you basically saying that one shold do half of the house chores no matter how much he/she works at their job? If one spouse is unemployed, and the other spouse works 60 hrs you consider it fair only when each does 50% of the house work?

Post by bobo888 » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:36 AM UTC

bobo888 wrote: post #29

sliverstorm wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now hold on there. Just because the employed member of the family puts in 60+ hours per week at the office doesn't mean they should do any less work around the house...

Whaaat? So are you basically saying that one shold do half of the house chores no matter how much he/she works at their job? If one spouse is unemployed, and the other spouse works 60 hrs you consider it fair only when each does 50% of the house work?

Post by whyenot » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:46 AM UTC

bobo888 wrote: post #23

sliverstorm wrote: post #11

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Whether or not marriage as an institution is biased against males or females (honestly, it seems to be biased against both) I am always astounded by people who see no value whatsoever in marriage. America is practically founded on capitalism. How can you understand specialization & its benefits, and not see how marriage (well, used to) makes use of it? Yes, if marriage was just about pretending "True Love is real, an…

I don't think that marriage in USA is biased against anyone. But the divorce is HEAVILY biased agains men. For example, more than 70% of divorces are initiated by women, while they also get the custody of the children 90% of the time. When it comes for child support, it's even worse. If in a family the husband begins to get a lower salary due to the state of the economy, then everybody should/will spend less. But if…

Post by janees » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:55 AM UTC

bbq wrote: post #18

sliverstorm wrote: post #11

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Whether or not marriage as an institution is biased against males or females (honestly, it seems to be biased against both) I am always astounded by people who see no value whatsoever in marriage. America is practically founded on capitalism. How can you understand specialization & its benefits, and not see how marriage (well, used to) makes use of it? Yes, if marriage was just about pretending "True Love is real, an…

"But as I have come to see it, it is more about facing the world as a "team". In larger groups (that is to say, extended family, all composed of marriage links), perhaps even as a "tribe"... think about that." I agree! Why do those links have to be marital? I'm not sure they have to be. Which is why the we need to be more open.

Post by sliverstorm » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 6:04 AM UTC

burgerbrain wrote: post #35

sliverstorm wrote: post #28

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Let me clarify- you are saying that children are unrelated to marriage?

You know full well what I am saying. The concept of legally binding marriage and a "loving and positive environment" are fundamentally unrelated. Little Johnny doesn't know or care if the government sanctions his parental figures' relationship. In fact , the only case in which Little Johnny might become aware of the governments involvement is when the resulting legal/social/economic pressure causes a dramatic deterio…