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> How would it feel if there was data about a crash you were involved in that you could not get access to? I'd be angry that data was recorded in the first place. No data should be recorded without the driver's explicit consent.
Ya I dunno. In the USA driving is a privilege, not a Right.
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old vehicles are very inefficient in terms of safety, fuel consumption, and exhaust gases, for this reason alone one should prefer electric or modern era ICE
The emissions cost of building a new car and shipping it halfway across the world will significantly affect this calculation. You can drive a less efficient car for many years on the carbon cost of building a new one, as long as you're not driving some huge pick up or other obscene gas guzzler.
There is a crossover point after you drive a certain number of miles in an EV, after which the lifetime carbon cost is lower than that of an equivalent ICE car.
For Model 3 the crossover point is estimated at around 5,000 miles. Not "many years."
The sources and methodology for this estimate are discussed in detail in Tesla's 2020 Impact Report.
https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2020-tesla-impact-report.pdf
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Variables often overlooked by other lifecycle studies:
* Using Worldwide Harmonized Light Vehicle Test Procedure (WLTP) or Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) fuel/energy consumption data (both of which overestimate fuel-economy and underestimate emissions) rather than real-world data;
* Not considering the higher energy efficiency of Tesla’s powertrains;
* Assuming the average EV needs a battery replacement at some point in its life;
* Not considering emissions generated through the oil refining and the transportation process; and
* Using outdated data for the carbon impact of cell manufacturing.
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My 2013 car is not particularly laden with gizmos and has been very easy to repair (no real breakdowns...).
It depends a lot on the car and the engine. If you want a high-performance engine that meets modern emissions requirements, you're probably going to be looking at EFI and turbochargers. Changing the fuel injection maps on a modern car requires something akin to rooting/flashing an Android.
Disclaimer: I work for a Tesla competitor. To combat fundamental attribution error, whenever you read an article about Tesla, try replacing the word 'Tesla' with your least favorite car or consumer product company. 'Brand X' has a bunch of data about accidents, and they are motivated to not share all of it with authorities. When they do share data they are motivated to share the data that presents them in the best li…
Sorry to be a pendant, but disclosure, not disclaimer.
Are there any current or upcoming electric four wheel vehicles that aren't a privacy nightmare?
> The vehicles also record speed, accelerator pedal position, steering wheel angle and brake usage, and depending on how the vehicle is used, that data can be stored for over a year. Tesla really seems to have an extreme amount of personal data capture combined with always-on remote access. It’s fascinating to watch people swear off Amazon Echo and delete their Facebook over privacy concerns but then proudly drive ar…
While Tesla knows more info about how you use or operate the car, the big piece that matters to your privacy is arguable the vehicle location and that is not at all unique to Tesla. Many (most?) vehicles produced in the last decade have a GSM modem that pretty much continuously leaks your data at least to the cellular networks, and likely the vehicle manufacturer/operator. I used to physically remove the modem from m…
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The emissions cost of building a new car and shipping it halfway across the world will significantly affect this calculation. You can drive a less efficient car for many years on the carbon cost of building a new one, as long as you're not driving some huge pick up or other obscene gas guzzler.
The second part of what you said is a widespread myth. There is a crossover point after you drive a certain number of miles in an EV, after which the lifetime carbon cost is lower than that of an equivalent ICE car. For Model 3 the crossover point is estimated at around 5,000 miles. Not "many years." The sources and methodology for this estimate are discussed in detail in Tesla's 2020 Impact Report. https://www.tesla…
I think 5k miles is a bit low, and using tesla as your only source biased.
Are there any current or upcoming electric four wheel vehicles that aren't a privacy nightmare?
Unfortunately, the new gas vehicles being sold today are also privacy nightmares, just look closely.
(Obviously I'm excluding all the non-street-legal "EVs" like golf carts and the like, as well as the truly antique and rare EVs that did exist around a century ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Electric_vehicles_int... )
> The vehicles also record speed, accelerator pedal position, steering wheel angle and brake usage, and depending on how the vehicle is used, that data can be stored for over a year. Tesla really seems to have an extreme amount of personal data capture combined with always-on remote access. It’s fascinating to watch people swear off Amazon Echo and delete their Facebook over privacy concerns but then proudly drive ar…
I've definitely been hesitant to buy a Tesla for exactly this reason. It's not clear if you can turn it off or avoid it by not using FSD either. It's a shame, would love to own one some day. But I'm guessing the option of buying a car that doesn't have this is slowly dying unfortunately. Consumers never win with this sort of stuff. The really ironic thing is that it is tied in with a more environmentally friendly car…
I see similar parallels with software. Want a sane UI with the functionality you need, or avoid being spied on? Then you have to use "insecure" older software.
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I will continue to repair my ‘70s and ‘80s era vehicles, because newer models that incorporate electronics are all total garbage. Reason: embedded engineer for 30 years who has worked on automotive software.
old vehicles are very inefficient in terms of safety, fuel consumption, and exhaust gases, for this reason alone one should prefer electric or modern era ICE
As the saying goes: "It's not about the miles per gallon, it's about the smiles per gallon."