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Europe is in a muddle over ritual slaughter

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Re: Europe is in a muddle over ritual slaughter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Striving for keeping the homogeneous culture that has existed for centuries and ejecting those who do not accept it is a reasonable alternative.

Jews have lived all around europe for centuries.

Lived and been subject to massacre for centuries and this well before ww2.

Re: Europe is in a muddle over ritual slaughter

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post #10
post #6

Why would a religion dictate how you should kill animals, and why do people believe this is a religious matter rather than an animal-rights matter? I just can't understand people sometimes.

Chesterton's fence probably applies here.

Quite. No scholar on this matter but they presumably began at least in part as a welfare measure.

Re: Europe is in a muddle over ritual slaughter

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let the religious people do whatever they want or the animal rights activists?

The former obviously. The latter are the ones who want to restrict the freedoms of others.

The latter would argue that the former are violating the animal's right to a pain-free death.

Re: Europe is in a muddle over ritual slaughter

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post #10
post #6

Why would a religion dictate how you should kill animals, and why do people believe this is a religious matter rather than an animal-rights matter? I just can't understand people sometimes.

Chesterton's fence probably applies here.

Yes, trichinosis was probably the reason for not eating pork. Similarly this method of slaughter probably had hygienic benefits in the desert countries where it was instituted.

Circumcision probably had hygienic benefits back then, too.

But we no longer live in these circumstances.

Re: Europe is in a muddle over ritual slaughter

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post #2

The price you pay in striving for social integration!

Yes, if you strife for integration you have long discussions in your society how to weigh opposing interests. I'm not sure what reasonable alternatives exist.

I mean, we've just had two male priests lose their job because they refused to work with female priests[1][2], citing the bible as reason.

Pretty sure that would have been considered quite radical a hundred years ago.

[1]: https://www.nrk.no/vestland/etter-avtale-med-biskopen_-mikae...

[2]: https://www.nrk.no/mr/omstridd-prest-i-orskog-gar-av_-ville-...

Re: Europe is in a muddle over ritual slaughter

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post #6

Why would a religion dictate how you should kill animals, and why do people believe this is a religious matter rather than an animal-rights matter? I just can't understand people sometimes.

Maybe you could study religion some more, why and when it emerged as it did, etc.

There is plenty of common sense in the holy books.

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