You can outlaw it but they will still just do it anyways but with more stealth. Religion is damn stupid but we have bigger fish to fry I think for workers and health of humans.
Europe is in a muddle over ritual slaughter
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Striving for keeping the homogeneous culture that has existed for centuries and ejecting those who do not accept it is a reasonable alternative.
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Are you serious? I’m no social conservative, but labelling that as Nazism just degrades your own political capital.
People are allowed to expect immigrants to fit in.
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Yes, if you strife for integration you have long discussions in your society how to weigh opposing interests. I'm not sure what reasonable alternatives exist.
Striving for keeping the homogeneous culture that has existed for centuries and ejecting those who do not accept it is a reasonable alternative.
Jews have lived all around europe for centuries.
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Yes, if you strife for integration you have long discussions in your society how to weigh opposing interests. I'm not sure what reasonable alternatives exist.
Striving for keeping the homogeneous culture that has existed for centuries and ejecting those who do not accept it is a reasonable alternative.
Apartheid has been tried before. Like communism it doesn’t work out in practice the way the theory predicts.
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#15I find the appeal to religious freedom contemptible. An animal does not suffer any less if it has to be conscious during its slaughter for religious reasons, rather than secular ones.
I would agree. IMHO, religious freedom is an individual freedom that applies to your own private life only. The treatment of animals is not seen as a matter of private life and individual freedom by society and in law, and therefore does not depend on a person's religion or beliefs.
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#16Because letting people do whatever they want is not even on the radar of these bureaucrats.
Let the religious people do whatever they want or the animal rights activists?
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#18Why would a religion dictate how you should kill animals, and why do people believe this is a religious matter rather than an animal-rights matter? I just can't understand people sometimes.
There are plenty of religious diktats in the Bible and other books that nobody follows.
For instance, if you curse at your parents, the Old Testament calls for you to be stoned to death. This one is conveniently overlooked though
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, if you strife for integration you have long discussions in your society how to weigh opposing interests. I'm not sure what reasonable alternatives exist.
Striving for keeping the homogeneous culture that has existed for centuries and ejecting those who do not accept it is a reasonable alternative.
Honest question: has any empire (or powerful nation) ever been homogenous without genocide?
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Striving for keeping the homogeneous culture that has existed for centuries and ejecting those who do not accept it is a reasonable alternative.
Honest question: has any empire (or powerful nation) ever been homogenous without genocide?
I think we can keep out immigrants who do not want to fit in without having to resort to genocide.