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Re: Netflix braces for staff walkout and LGBTQ rally over Chappelle special

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Post by taylodl »

colpabar wrote: post #86
taylodl wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix has agency, no? If Netflix were to take down the Dave Chappelle episode as a result of "caving to the demands of those offended" that is their right, no? I still retain my agency to cancel my Netflix subscription - I could cancel because I was offended by the episode, I could cancel because I was upset that Netflix pulled the episode. I'm really not seeing how anybody's freedoms are being diminished in this c…

If I held a gun to your head and said "give me your phone or face the consequences," would you claim that me shooting you for not giving me your phone is you "being held accountable"? Because that seems analogous to what is happening to netflix here. The consequences of them producing this special is that some people are mad. But netflix chose to produce it, and I'm sure they knew full well that some people would get…

False comparison. Holding a gun to my head and threatening my life is not a social consequence, it’s assault with the use of deadly force. The fact you gloss over that fact and so glibly make this comparison is rather disturbing.

Re: Netflix braces for staff walkout and LGBTQ rally over Chappelle special

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Post by CodeGlitch »

droopyEyelids wrote: post #12

CEO Ted Sarandos has apologized and claimed fault. I'm interested to see if this works out for him, in the end. I believe the general trend is that reversing your position on a big public issue (even if your original position was wrong!) is the end of your authority and career. I am not making a statement about how this 'should' work!

Classic CEO error. Stick to your values and principles and never apologies to the mob.

Re: Netflix braces for staff walkout and LGBTQ rally over Chappelle special

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Post by randomsearch »

falcolas wrote: post #43
cassac wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should they take all jokes that hurt Christian feelings offline? Or how about anything that is critical of the CCP? Where does it end?

Christians are not an oppressed minority, in any sense of either word. Nor is the CCP. Both of those parties represent real power, both politically and financially, in this world today.

What an incredible statement to assert, so confidently and so very wrong.

I am not a Christian, but you are incorrect - Christians are an oppressed minority in plenty places in the world. Persecuted, oppressed, killed. And it’s not a “one off” or an exception, in happens in many countries. A cursory Google will give you many examples.

Re: Netflix braces for staff walkout and LGBTQ rally over Chappelle special

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Post by rsj_hn »

falcolas wrote: post #43
cassac wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should they take all jokes that hurt Christian feelings offline? Or how about anything that is critical of the CCP? Where does it end?

Christians are not an oppressed minority, in any sense of either word. Nor is the CCP. Both of those parties represent real power, both politically and financially, in this world today.

Not many Christians are killed in the west, but in Africa and the middle east large numbers are being murdered. Especially in places like Nigeria by militant muslim groups such as Boko Haram or Fulani. You can find references on google from news reports of mass murders if you like, or read the state department reports. E.g.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/248547/report-17-chr...

https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-report-on-international-r...

Re: Netflix braces for staff walkout and LGBTQ rally over Chappelle special

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Post by dragonwriter »

rsj_hn wrote: post #95
falcolas wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Christians are not an oppressed minority, in any sense of either word. Nor is the CCP. Both of those parties represent real power, both politically and financially, in this world today.

Not many Christians are killed in the west, but in Africa and the middle east large numbers are being murdered. Especially in places like Nigeria by militant muslim groups such as Boko Haram or Fulani. You can find references on google from news reports of mass murders if you like, or read the state department reports. E.g. https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/248547/report-17-chr... https://www.state.gov/reports/…

> Not many Christians are killed in the west, but in Africa and the middle east large numbers are being murdered.

Sure, there are places in the world Christians are an oppressed group; all such descriptions are specific to a bounded context.

Re: Netflix braces for staff walkout and LGBTQ rally over Chappelle special

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Post by supernovae »

toyg wrote: post #32
supernovae wrote: post #29

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If you look at the data, it certainly isn't the silent majority, it's the vocal minority. Look at the last US election, they tried to destroy democracy and claim fraudulent elections to uphold these absurd beliefs. It's so bad, that many states are making it harder for the people to vote just to perpetuate this nonsense.

You are equating "silent majority" and "hardcore right wing". That's not how it works in practice - this is something that both right and left can and do get wrong.

You're assuming left vs right, The only side that feels there is some universality here is the right. The left is HIGHLY fragmented - always has been, always will be. That gives people on the right this messed up "silent majority" notion that just isn't true.

Re: Netflix braces for staff walkout and LGBTQ rally over Chappelle special

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Post by N0tAThr0wAway »

supernovae wrote: post #98
toyg wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are equating "silent majority" and "hardcore right wing". That's not how it works in practice - this is something that both right and left can and do get wrong.

You're assuming left vs right, The only side that feels there is some universality here is the right. The left is HIGHLY fragmented - always has been, always will be. That gives people on the right this messed up "silent majority" notion that just isn't true.

The right has definitely fragmented in the past five years (older conservatives, Trumpers, the alt-right, etc.). You're again getting this wrong and can only think in a "left vs. right" framework (typical of leftists and alt-righters).

The "silent majority" exists in this case especially around wedge issues like trans sports inclusion [0].

[0] https://19thnews.org/2021/05/gallup-americans-oppose-transge...

Re: Netflix braces for staff walkout and LGBTQ rally over Chappelle special

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Post by randomsearch »

randomsearch wrote: post #94
falcolas wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Christians are not an oppressed minority, in any sense of either word. Nor is the CCP. Both of those parties represent real power, both politically and financially, in this world today.

What an incredible statement to assert, so confidently and so very wrong. I am not a Christian, but you are incorrect - Christians are an oppressed minority in plenty places in the world. Persecuted, oppressed, killed. And it’s not a “one off” or an exception, in happens in many countries. A cursory Google will give you many examples.

Downvoted, I presume because I didn't give explicit examples; wasn't able to at the time but here's a list of countries where Christians face persecution from a US report: Burma, China, Eritrea, India, Iran, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Vietnam.

Eritrea: where Christians are tortured, arrested, and imprisoned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism_in_Eritrea

A country I was surprised not to see on that list is Indonesia, which came to mind immediately. Take the conflict in Maluku, where Christians were forced to convert, or the eviction of the Christian minority from Banda. Example article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55140847

Yemen: where Houthis have targeted Christians. Book burning religious texts, burning down churches, etc. https://www.uscirf.gov/news-room/releases-statements/uscirf-...

You could make a very long list. Just because Christians aren't oppressed in your country does not mean they're not an oppressed minority elsewhere.

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