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Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by spacedcowboy » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:29 PM UTC

camillomiller wrote: post #272

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. Two reasons: 1. M1 is a super fast laptop chip. It provides mid-range desktop performance in a laptop form factor with mostly fanless operation. No matter how you look at it, that's impressive. 2. Apple really dragged their feet on updating the old Intel Macs before the transition. People in the Mac world (excluding hackintosh) were stu…

You need to consider the larger target group of professionals. It's really GPU capabilities that blow everything away. If you don't plan to use your MacBook Pro for video/photo editing or 3D modeling, then a M1 Pro with the same 10-core CPU and 16-core Neural Engine has all you need and costs less. Unless I'm missing something I don't think there much added benefit from the added GPU cores in your scenario, unless yo…

I'm looking forward to playing BG3 on mine :)

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by hajile » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:29 PM UTC

Thaxll wrote: post #48

petersellers wrote: post #23

Pretty impressive, all things considered. Looks like it's roughly on par with an AMD 5800X, which is a Desktop CPU with 8C/16T and a 105W TDP.

5800x seems 20% faster for single core: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5874365 so def not on part.

But if you run TWO single-threaded workloads at once, the clocks dial WAY back. Meanwhile, the M1 can keep all cores at 3.2GHz pretty much indefinitely.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by m15i » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:29 PM UTC

munro wrote: post #274

Here's the link to the MacBookPro18,2 OpenCL benchmark: * M1 Max OpenCL https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/3551790 [60,167 OpenCL Score] Comparing to my current MacBook Pro (16-inch Late 2019) & my Hetzner AX101 server: * MacBook Pro (16-inch Late 2019) vs M1 Max - CPU https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/10496766?baseli... [single 163.6%, multi 188.8%] * MacBook Pro (16-inch Late 2019) vs M1 Max - Open…

Anyone know if that “Device Memory 42.7 GB” is fixed or can be increased?

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by simonebrunozzi » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:29 PM UTC

Wondering if some of the avid videogamers, in need for powerful GPUs, will consider Macbook Pros with M1 Pro or Max as a good option.

AFAIK, some of the most popular videogames run on Mac too.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by jjcon » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

jachee wrote: post #298

jjcon wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> GPU capabilities that blow everything away Compared to previous macs and igpus - an nvidia gpu will still run circles arounnd this thing

In a quiet laptop?

If you are trying to do hardcore video editing or modeling then 'quiet laptop' likely comes second to speed

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by DisjointedHunt » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

I’m not sure how Geekbench browser tests hold up to real world usage, but note that Apples ecosystem is WAY different compared to x86.

For starters, the chip isn’t general purpose compute, it’s more of an ASIC that is optimized to run the OS abstractions available through the official APIs (Think on screen animation such as rendering an image or detecting things in it. On x86, you implement the code and in some cases, proprietary libraries such as Intels MKL make it seemingly faster to run. On Apple Silicon, for such common use cases there are DEDICATED chip areas. Thus, an ASIC)

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by spacedcowboy » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

jjcon wrote: post #284

camillomiller wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to consider the larger target group of professionals. It's really GPU capabilities that blow everything away. If you don't plan to use your MacBook Pro for video/photo editing or 3D modeling, then a M1 Pro with the same 10-core CPU and 16-core Neural Engine has all you need and costs less. Unless I'm missing something I don't think there much added benefit from the added GPU cores in your scenario, unless yo…

> GPU capabilities that blow everything away Compared to previous macs and igpus - an nvidia gpu will still run circles arounnd this thing

Anything that can run rings around it is unlikely to be running on a battery in a laptop, at least for any reasonable length of time.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by garblegarble » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

jbverschoor wrote: post #76

Thaxll wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably bad, the M1 could not get 60fps on WoW so ... When I see Apple comparison I would take that with a grain of salts because the M1 is not able to run any modern game at decent fps.

My M1 cannot properly without stuttering show https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/ (esp. the second animation of opening and turning the laptop). Both safari and chrome

That's because it's actually a series of jpegs rather than a video(!!) - the same happens on my Intel Mac

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by neogodless » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

mhh__ wrote: post #36

petersellers wrote: post #23

Pretty impressive, all things considered. Looks like it's roughly on par with an AMD 5800X, which is a Desktop CPU with 8C/16T and a 105W TDP.

Impressive but unbelievably expensive considering what will actually be run on it. I kind of want one, but the 5800x for example is about 10x less expensive than a specced out MacBook Pro

The 10-core (8 performance) M1 Max starts around $2700 in the 14" form factor.

It's hard to compare to laptops, but since we started the desktop comparison, a Ryzen 7 5800X is $450 MSRP, or about $370 current street price. Motherboards can be found for $100, but you'll more likely spend $220-250 for a good match. 32GB RAM is $150, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro is a bit under $200. Let's assume desktop RTX 3060 for the graphics (which is probably slightly more powerful than the 32-core GPU M1 Max) for MSRP $330 but street price over $700.

So we're at about $1670 for the components, before adding in case ($100), power supply ($100) and other things a laptop includes (screen, keyboard...).

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by andy_ppp » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:31 PM UTC

icosahedron wrote: post #195

I'm not exactly proficient with GeekBenchery, but what I see here is that the M1 Max per core barely outperforms the M1? https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/10496766?baseli...

The A15 chips has core improvements, I suspect this is what we’ll see every year from now on 15-20% performance increase yearly for the next few years assuming no issues with TSMC…