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Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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The notion of China posturing to defend / support the idea of intellectual property is patently hilarious. Obviously, the core of this is not appeasing to Chinese / CCP censors but the headline is funny nonetheless.

[ This post represents my private opinions and is unrelated to my employment. ] It seems like you're trying to be flippantly dismissive, or to just make a joke, but the intent of your 'joke' isn't clear at all. What are you trying to intimate? Chinese companies gain millions of patents each year, in China and elsewhere, so China defending IPR as a concept seems wise. They seem to use a lot of utility patents (I think…

It's hilarious because China regularly steals trade secrets and intellectual property from any, primarily American, company they desire.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

#112
post #104

(Disclaimer: I'm a franco-Canadian of mixed European descent.) This article doesn't give China a great image, sure. I can think of a million criticisms to levy against China. However, I feel like a lot of the comments aren't just criticizing China, they seem to be outright anti-China. I wonder if, in the grand scheme of things, Americans/Westerners might be feeling threatened by the shift in power. I wonder if Americ…

There's a difference between being anti-CCP and anti-China.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

#113
post #104

(Disclaimer: I'm a franco-Canadian of mixed European descent.) This article doesn't give China a great image, sure. I can think of a million criticisms to levy against China. However, I feel like a lot of the comments aren't just criticizing China, they seem to be outright anti-China. I wonder if, in the grand scheme of things, Americans/Westerners might be feeling threatened by the shift in power. I wonder if Americ…

There's a difference between being anti-CCP and anti-China.

No difference really. Domestic approval ratings for the CCP are through the roof.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/913650298/as-u-s-views-of-chi...

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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There's a difference between being anti-CCP and anti-China.

No difference really. Domestic approval ratings for the CCP are through the roof. https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/913650298/as-u-s-views-of-chi...

Does that include Tibet, Xinjiang and Taiwan? They're 'Domestic' according to the CCP right?

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #104

(Disclaimer: I'm a franco-Canadian of mixed European descent.) This article doesn't give China a great image, sure. I can think of a million criticisms to levy against China. However, I feel like a lot of the comments aren't just criticizing China, they seem to be outright anti-China. I wonder if, in the grand scheme of things, Americans/Westerners might be feeling threatened by the shift in power. I wonder if Americ…

I think it will be hard to applaud China for anything until they stop systematically oppressing their Uighur population and quit terrorizing places like Taiwan for no reason. Maybe then it will be possible to reconcile our petty differences, but human rights abuses come first.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

#117
post #43

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The US is next level global hyper-power. PRC only seeks to be regional hegemony / super power, i.e. pacing power. PLAN has enough ships and replenishment fleet to project to Djibouti/ME oil without issue for years. Not enough to go toe-to-toe with USN yet, but enough for anything else. Training is just focused on securing SCS right now. Within context post WW2 westphalia sovereignty construct PRC has right to finish…

> as recognized by UN Beijing flagrantly violates international law, e.g. maritime law—appealing to it is ironic. In any case, it has no rightful claim to Taiwan nor its people—any such assertion is an intentional misreading of post-WWII international law. There is fighting will to defend Taiwan in several of China’s neighbours; Australia, yes, but also India and Japan. The U.S. policy position, that an invasion of T…

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Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

#118
post #82

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> We have North and South Korea because of a US invasion No, this is demonstrably false. Korea was annexed by Japan in 1910. After the war, Korea was partitioned -- much like Europe -- with North Korea occupied by the Soviet Union and South Korea occupied by the US along the 38th parallel in 1945. Except the nature of the respective military presence was very different. The Soviet Union and China brought in large qua…

>To call this a "US invasion" is absurd A US invasion to prop up the Rhee government that massacred leftists is the only reason there isn't a unified Korea under North Korean rule. You can argue that's a good thing, but trying to claim the US did not invade is absurd. And on the fascist bogeyman parts, any improvement in those areas happened in South Korea and Taiwan rather recently, in the past thirty years or so.

The treatment of communist guerillas by the South Korean government was substantially more humane (and far less bloody) than the treatment of civil society by the military junta ruling North Korea up to and including the leadership of Kim Tu-bong, who was himself dissapeared by Kim Il Sung in 1949. The problem here is that the hard-left stalinist policies that were widespread in the 30s-50s (and imitated by Mao) required a whole-scale attack on civil society:

* forced collectivization of agriculture

* attacks on schools, press, and bringing all instutions under the control of the party functionaries

* execution of monks, priests and missionaries and destruction of all religious organizations

* seizure of all private property.

Enforcing something like that requires a very bloody attack on the entire civil society:

"Concentration camps came into being in North Korea in the wake of the country's liberation from Japanese colonial rule at the end of World War II. Those persons considered "adversary class forces", such as landholders, Japanese collaborators, religious devotees and the families of people who migrated to the South, were rounded up and detained in large facilities. Additional camps were later established in the late 1950s and 60s in order to incarcerate the political victims of power struggles along with their families as well as overseas Koreans who migrated to the North. Later, the number of camps saw a marked increase with the cementing of the Kim Il Sung dictatorship and the Kim Jong-il succession."

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concentration_and_inte...

You can argue that Stalinist dictorships destroying civil society are a good thing, but trying to claim that the US "invaded" South Korea with 300 troops is absurd.

> any improvement in those areas happened in South Korea and Taiwan rather recently, in the past thirty years or so.

There was no period of time in which North Korea was more free or respectful of human nature than the South, as evidenced by people continuing to flee to the South from the North, which is why the North had to build walls to keep people in.

It is because the government of the South did not launch a wholescale attack on human nature and provided more freedom than the North that it could evolve in directions that promoted greater individual liberty over time, whereas the North remained mired with famines, collectivization insanity, and repression.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

#119

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No difference really. Domestic approval ratings for the CCP are through the roof. https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/913650298/as-u-s-views-of-chi...

Does that include Tibet, Xinjiang and Taiwan? They're 'Domestic' according to the CCP right?

The total population of those 3 regions amounts to 50 million, less than 4% of China.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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There's a difference between being anti-CCP and anti-China.

No difference really. Domestic approval ratings for the CCP are through the roof. https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/913650298/as-u-s-views-of-chi...

Yeah I don't know how we could possibly validate that. It's similar to, but not the same as, measuring this in North Korea.
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