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O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by summm »

userbinator wrote: post #179
concinds wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of the old "Windows XP Service Pack 4", or Windows 7 Minimalist ISOs that were going around. Generally, even the idea of using an OS downloaded from a random site (big Linux distributions excepted) is a security nightmare: you're trusting random, anonymous people not to put malware deep enough into the OS image where it won't easily be found. See XcodeGhost that got caught way after the fact. Same exa…

What a bunch corporate-authoritarian fearmongering BS. The community is NOT stupid. All it takes is one person to find out someone is trying to be malicious, and mass ostracisation will take place. For most of civilization we didn't need corporate overlords to tell us who to trust --- that's a very very recent development. where hundreds of major corporations with world-class software engineers LOL. The same "world-c…

I had hoped the risk for malicious actors would be a bit more serious than ostracisation. Like, criminal persecution?

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by sph »

userbinator wrote: post #179
concinds wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of the old "Windows XP Service Pack 4", or Windows 7 Minimalist ISOs that were going around. Generally, even the idea of using an OS downloaded from a random site (big Linux distributions excepted) is a security nightmare: you're trusting random, anonymous people not to put malware deep enough into the OS image where it won't easily be found. See XcodeGhost that got caught way after the fact. Same exa…

What a bunch corporate-authoritarian fearmongering BS. The community is NOT stupid. All it takes is one person to find out someone is trying to be malicious, and mass ostracisation will take place. For most of civilization we didn't need corporate overlords to tell us who to trust --- that's a very very recent development. where hundreds of major corporations with world-class software engineers LOL. The same "world-c…

How do you ostracise someone on the Internet if they're hiding behind pseudonyms?

It makes no sense to compare how we live and behave in real life with the Internet.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by 1_player »

schleck8 wrote: post #61
spicybright wrote: post #2

How does this compare to TronScript? https://www.reddit.com/r/TronScript/ https://github.com/bmrf/tron/blob/master/README.md#use

Can someone explain these two decisions for me? >DO NOT DOWNLOAD TRON FROM GITHUB, IT WILL NOT WORK!! YOU NEED THE ENTIRE PACKAGE FROM r/TronScript > Download Tron. The download links are in the top post in /r/TronScript. If you download the self-extracting .exe file, run it and it will extract tron.bat and the \resources folder to the current directory. Copy both of them to the Desktop of the target Why package a BA…

Smells fishy.

The reason is present the software as open-source while in reality it's closed source with unimportant data files being published on GitHub.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by userbinator »

sph wrote: post #202
userbinator wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a bunch corporate-authoritarian fearmongering BS. The community is NOT stupid. All it takes is one person to find out someone is trying to be malicious, and mass ostracisation will take place. For most of civilization we didn't need corporate overlords to tell us who to trust --- that's a very very recent development. where hundreds of major corporations with world-class software engineers LOL. The same "world-c…

How do you ostracise someone on the Internet if they're hiding behind pseudonyms? It makes no sense to compare how we live and behave in real life with the Internet.

People can get doxxed and ruined in real life. News spreads quickly. If you try to deceive a whole community of intelligent humans you'll get found out sooner rather than later, and unlike the slap-on-the-wrist lawsuit that at best companies get from trying the same, it is much worse for an individual. But of course, that doesn't fit the narrative...

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by account42 »

userbinator wrote: post #186
cma wrote: post #184

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I found this on it: https://www.google.com/chrome/privacy/whitepaper.html#unwant... > In addition, if you have opted in to automatically report details of possible security incidents to Google, Chrome will report information about unwanted software, including relevant file metadata and system settings linked to the unwanted software found on your computer. I don't think I ever opted in to this but they may have have…

From there, we get to https://www.google.com/about/unwanted-software-policy.html which says After installation, programs should not engage in deceptive or unexpected behavior. Some examples of deceptive or unexpected behavior include:[...]Preventing the user from controlling the software[...]The user must have a meaningful opportunity to review and approve any principal and significant updates or settings changes. Di…

Also from https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/security/...

> Don't scare the user. Software must not misrepresent the state of the user's machine to the user, for example by claiming the system is in a critical security state or infected with viruses.

Yet Google Chrome continues to tell users that many harmless executables are malware even after they have been informed of the false positive many times.

Maybe they should prevent people from downloading Chrome instead.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by Jenk »

mdiesel wrote: post #158
Jenk wrote: post #139

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Since the 21H1 update you might start noticing connection drops since a new wlan autoconfig feature has been added: if windows can't ping home reliably, it will restart your nic. Yep.

Link please? I run Windows for work, which includes connecting to industrial networks with no Internet connectivity. If this happens, it's going to be a nightmare.

Sorry for the delay.. I actually couldn't find any official docs on this feature but this thread covers the bases:

https://www.tenforums.com/network-sharing/178379-disable-wla...

And it appears it may be part of 20h2, not 21h1 update.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by Jenk »

dataflow wrote: post #155
Jenk wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since the 21H1 update you might start noticing connection drops since a new wlan autoconfig feature has been added: if windows can't ping home reliably, it will restart your nic. Yep.

Damn, that's hostility on another level. Do you have a link to more reading on this?

Sorry for the delay.. I actually couldn't find any official docs on this feature but this thread covers the bases:

https://www.tenforums.com/network-sharing/178379-disable-wla...

And it appears it may be part of 20h2, not 21h1 update.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by dataflow »

Jenk wrote: post #209
dataflow wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damn, that's hostility on another level. Do you have a link to more reading on this?

Sorry for the delay.. I actually couldn't find any official docs on this feature but this thread covers the bases: https://www.tenforums.com/network-sharing/178379-disable-wla... And it appears it may be part of 20h2, not 21h1 update.

Thanks for the link! I'm searching for 'reboot' and 'restart' but I don't see anything mentioned about rebooting -- only a restart of the network service. Are you sure it actually reboots the PC?
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