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O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by LeoPanthera »

spicybright wrote: post #2

How does this compare to TronScript? https://www.reddit.com/r/TronScript/ https://github.com/bmrf/tron/blob/master/README.md#use

TronScript is hugely overkill. It makes changes that the vast majority of Windows users, even privacy conscious ones, would not want.

I dread to think how many well-meaning sons and daughters have run it on their parents and relatives PCs and then left, leaving behind a system that is now a nightmare to use.

Also, it takes literally hours to run. I mean, what the hell? ShutUp10 is done in seconds.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by stevenicr »

gigel82 wrote: post #137

There are a lot of open source scripts and tools on GitHub for accomplishing the same goal (in various state of being out-of-date, abandoned, etc.); I started collecting the ones that appear somewhat active here: https://github.com/TemporalAgent7/awesome-windows-privacy I plan on going through them to weed out duplicates and duds. You shouldn't trust any of those blindly, but definitely read through the code; I'm par…

I want similar, although I don't want oneDrive - the level of spying that's used for is unacceptable imho.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by devwastaken »

neogodless wrote: post #109
devwastaken wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Historically tools like these were broken by windows updates and could not keep up with Microsoft's violent efforts in breaking them. You can't even turn off windows defender in the registry anymore, which is the sole reason windows performs terribly on low end devices. It sends the CPU and 5400rpm disk to 100% use all the time. Windows is a threat to national security and Microsoft must be sanctioned. Business if th…

Interesting. My friend just put Windows 11 on his (original) Surface Go (Pentium Gold 4415Y, 8GB RAM, 128GB), and he cannot stop raving about how fast it is. He said he was considering putting Linux on it, but he isn't feeling the need to now. To be sure, that's not a 5400rpm desk, though, yeah, I haven't had to suffer through one of those in over a decade!

It will be slow in the coming months. Windows has very fast UI response on fresh installs and degrades over time. It's really not an achievement to have responsive UI in 2021, Microsoft just hires the bottom of the barrel and bases everything on group studies, which yields the worst outcomes.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by dataflow »

Jenk wrote: post #139
jakobdabo wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to use Windows once in a while (circumstances). Best way to forget about the existence of spyware (aka telemetry) that I found is to not connect a Windows box directly to internet. I configured my router to give it a gateway and DNS IPs which don't exist in the network. Eat that, Microsoft. And I can still connect to internet by manually setting a SOCKSv5a proxy to the router in Firefox and other software that…

Since the 21H1 update you might start noticing connection drops since a new wlan autoconfig feature has been added: if windows can't ping home reliably, it will restart your nic. Yep.

Damn, that's hostility on another level. Do you have a link to more reading on this?

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by qwertox »

jakobdabo wrote: post #123
npteljes wrote: post #92

Very nice that I turn off everything I want one time, but what about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? How about new settings for new features that are added? I think it's foolish to go use software like this, and expect some privacy to happen. Windows and its user are just not on the same page. What refreshed my hope in IT is the FOSS ecosystem. Where software is passively uncaring about…

I have to use Windows once in a while (circumstances). Best way to forget about the existence of spyware (aka telemetry) that I found is to not connect a Windows box directly to internet. I configured my router to give it a gateway and DNS IPs which don't exist in the network. Eat that, Microsoft. And I can still connect to internet by manually setting a SOCKSv5a proxy to the router in Firefox and other software that…

Wow! Thank you for that tip. Block the machine's internet access with a firewall but connect the browsers over a SOCKS proxy.

I mean, I do have a couple of containers up and running on a Raspberry Pi offering nothing but intranet SSH services while the containers are connected via OpenVPN to differnt VPN servers, so that I can use different browsers which connect via SOCKS each to one container in order to have one browser per country on one machine.

It never occurred to me that I can use this same technique (but without OpenVPN) in order to disallow that machine to connect to the internet but still have a working browser...

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by mdiesel »

Jenk wrote: post #139
jakobdabo wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to use Windows once in a while (circumstances). Best way to forget about the existence of spyware (aka telemetry) that I found is to not connect a Windows box directly to internet. I configured my router to give it a gateway and DNS IPs which don't exist in the network. Eat that, Microsoft. And I can still connect to internet by manually setting a SOCKSv5a proxy to the router in Firefox and other software that…

Since the 21H1 update you might start noticing connection drops since a new wlan autoconfig feature has been added: if windows can't ping home reliably, it will restart your nic. Yep.

Link please? I run Windows for work, which includes connecting to industrial networks with no Internet connectivity. If this happens, it's going to be a nightmare.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by npteljes »

estaseuropano wrote: post #121
npteljes wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I acted like this for a long time, and my trust remained broken.

Great, this is the most constructive answer. Eternal useless pessimism instead of at least trying simple steps to solve the issue. Great credit to the authors of the tool. I used it many times when I was stuck with windows - and I'm grateful that they did all the work to make it.

I'm quite a pessimist otherwise, but I don't think my comment really reflects that. I just reported that as a human being, I'm tired of, and fed up with fighting a system that disrespects me, belittles me, overrides my decisions.

For the longest time I felt that I have the upper hand. That I could install a software for my every need, limit this, change that, bend the whole system to my will. But the realization grew on me, that me and the system are wanting two very different things. And whatever I do, I won't win. At most, we can be engaged in a cat-and-mouse game, as long as I'm up for fighting for it. If I'm not, then my cause is lost.

With this realization, I felt betrayed by the entity I otherwise liked very much. And this is the feeling I wanted to convey with my previous comment.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by npteljes »

mcbishop wrote: post #125
npteljes wrote: post #92

Very nice that I turn off everything I want one time, but what about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? How about new settings for new features that are added? I think it's foolish to go use software like this, and expect some privacy to happen. Windows and its user are just not on the same page. What refreshed my hope in IT is the FOSS ecosystem. Where software is passively uncaring about…

For some of us (me), tools like this are the difference between no privacy oversight and some oversight. I aspire to be a privacy-aware person rocking Linux, but in the meantime...

I appreciate this aspect of the ShutUp10. By its existence and popularity, it spreads the message that there is such a thing as privacy, and that it's important.
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