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Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by estaseuropano » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

npteljes wrote: post #103

stinos wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? Well, you run the tool again. It even tells you to do that after making changes.

I acted like this for a long time, and my trust remained broken.

Great, this is the most constructive answer. Eternal useless pessimism instead of at least trying simple steps to solve the issue.

Great credit to the authors of the tool. I used it many times when I was stuck with windows - and I'm grateful that they did all the work to make it.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by Saris » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

nazgulsenpai wrote: post #93

> `Disable advertisements via Bluetooth` A screenshot of the application on the website shows this option. I don't understand; are advertisements via Bluetooth some kind of Windows functionality and how does it work?

BLE Beacons, they send your device ID a couple times a second as a broadcast.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by jakobdabo » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:07 PM UTC

npteljes wrote: post #92

Very nice that I turn off everything I want one time, but what about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? How about new settings for new features that are added? I think it's foolish to go use software like this, and expect some privacy to happen. Windows and its user are just not on the same page. What refreshed my hope in IT is the FOSS ecosystem. Where software is passively uncaring about…

I have to use Windows once in a while (circumstances).

Best way to forget about the existence of spyware (aka telemetry) that I found is to not connect a Windows box directly to internet. I configured my router to give it a gateway and DNS IPs which don't exist in the network. Eat that, Microsoft. And I can still connect to internet by manually setting a SOCKSv5a proxy to the router in Firefox and other software that I trust (make sure there is no automatic proxy discovery mechanism in the router).

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:08 PM UTC

inside65 wrote: post #115

I've been using this since W10 came out. It works, but as others mention, some parts seem to stop working magically over time.

Its not magic. Its windows update happening in the background

I went from perfect system health , progressively into blue screen death, it got so bad that it happened every 2 hours after spiking my i7 to 100% cpu use. The decline happened within a month of a win10 update back in Aug/Sept.

A couple of MS support tickets and a windows reinstall later, I finally gave up had to do a complete fresh PC install to fix.

No issues since but i still get the occasional 100% cpu clock.

Ive also turned on windows10 selective update download.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by mcbishop » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:11 PM UTC

npteljes wrote: post #92

Very nice that I turn off everything I want one time, but what about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? How about new settings for new features that are added? I think it's foolish to go use software like this, and expect some privacy to happen. Windows and its user are just not on the same page. What refreshed my hope in IT is the FOSS ecosystem. Where software is passively uncaring about…

For some of us (me), tools like this are the difference between no privacy oversight and some oversight. I aspire to be a privacy-aware person rocking Linux, but in the meantime...

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by chaz72 » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:14 PM UTC

TLLtchvL8KZ wrote: post #47

I prefer https://privacy.sexy/ - it generates a script that I can read/edit.

This is great! https://github.com/undergroundwires/privacy.sexy/tree/master... looks like the raw data (yaml) for all these commands, including commands for macOS. With that, it’s at least plausible to audit these commands.

I probably still won’t trust it on a critical system without a reputable audit though, I think I’d still prefer to either trust Microsoft or Apple or go run OpenBSD or Linux instead.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by spockz » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:15 PM UTC

estaseuropano wrote: post #121

npteljes wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I acted like this for a long time, and my trust remained broken.

Great, this is the most constructive answer. Eternal useless pessimism instead of at least trying simple steps to solve the issue. Great credit to the authors of the tool. I used it many times when I was stuck with windows - and I'm grateful that they did all the work to make it.

I read it like GP lost faith because the settings were turned on so frequently. Not because the tools don’t work.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by KronisLV » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:15 PM UTC

estaseuropano wrote: post #121

npteljes wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I acted like this for a long time, and my trust remained broken.

Great, this is the most constructive answer. Eternal useless pessimism instead of at least trying simple steps to solve the issue. Great credit to the authors of the tool. I used it many times when I was stuck with windows - and I'm grateful that they did all the work to make it.

I think it's a pretty good idea to automate this sort of software and schedule it to run whenever the OS restarts, or at the same time every day (or multiple times, depending on usage patterns).

I don't think it's possible to (easily) figure out when to run something right after the updates change any settings, but it's a good idea to automate away manual work as much as possible!

The person that you're replying to certainly has a point about having to run the tool manually being a hassle. Sadly, at the moment there are also no ways to automate running the tool (that i know of), since it's GUI only, as opposed to offering CLI functionality or silent launch options.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by iso1210 » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:16 PM UTC

marcodiego wrote: post #64

iratewizard wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're a Microsoft gold partner. Their reputation is on the line.

Their with microsoft, you mean. Considering microsoft's reputation with regard to telemetry and other abuses, I'd say it doesn't mean much.

You're happy enough to take Microsoft products, how much worse can a microsoft gold partner be?

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Post by nvr219 » Sat, Oct 09, 2021, 5:30 PM UTC

npteljes wrote: post #103

stinos wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? Well, you run the tool again. It even tells you to do that after making changes.

I acted like this for a long time, and my trust remained broken.

Then perhaps this tool and this operating system are not for you... Windows is good for some things, privacy ain't one of them, and you need to either live with it, work hard to protect your privacy within it, or leave it.