At least they’re coming down somewhat gracefully. ‘Raining’ makes it sound a lot worse!
Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou
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#62For those who like drone dystopia nightmare fuel, this video made me think of this disturbing modern weapon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STM_Kargu :/
And the machine learning (I assume like modern camera auto focuses) anti weapon
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#63For those who like drone dystopia nightmare fuel, this video made me think of this disturbing modern weapon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STM_Kargu :/
What defence could, say, a traditional military base, mount against a swarm of, say, 1000 of these?
One would probably use a laser,
https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/rheinmetall_ag/press/themen_i...
As they are small, they do not need a lot of energy to be disabled, especially if they are jammed first.
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#64For those who like drone dystopia nightmare fuel, this video made me think of this disturbing modern weapon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STM_Kargu :/
> these drones were initially designed as an airborne sentry or surveillance tool. So probably developed in part by people who had no idea they were building weapons.
Not really. The Turkish drone projects were created basically because Turkish engineers looked at all the drone stuff happening in the west and went "look at all these idiot westerners using all these amazing weapons as toys". Everyone who joined those companies knew from the start what field they were in.
And while the original Kargus didn't have explosives, that doesn't mean they weren't weapons. In the military sense, a radio that's being used to call in artillery is a weapon. Whether the bomb is on the drone itself or is fired at something the drone is surveilling doesn't change what the drone is.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
> these drones were initially designed as an airborne sentry or surveillance tool. So probably developed in part by people who had no idea they were building weapons.
Not really. The Turkish drone projects were created basically because Turkish engineers looked at all the drone stuff happening in the west and went "look at all these idiot westerners using all these amazing weapons as toys". Everyone who joined those companies knew from the start what field they were in. And while the original Kargus didn't have explosives, that doesn't mean they weren't weapons. In the military se…
Maybe.
How much would you bet against open source projects like Ardupilot having their code swiped and used by defence contractors or weapons manufacturers.
What are the GPL requirements for making the source available to people targeted by drones running stolen GPL code?
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Okay I don't care if my account gets banned but why in the FUCK does everything about China has to do with the government? Everyone here and on Reddit are bitching about Chinese propaganda bots but the only thing I see is people with new accounts attacking China and an immediate accusation of shilling to anyone who doesn't criticize China or even draws a parallel between whatever is being criticized and the U.S.. Ser…
Anywhere that expressing "fuck " in public can result in police interrogation deserves all the scrutiny it gets.
Agree. My niece and many of her friends were arrested in Minneapolis MN (USA) last spring for protesting against police violence.
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I am neither American nor a gun nerd, but from what I "overheard" on the internet a single Phalanx system should be able to take out drone swarms at incredible rates?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27440924 >>The Block 1A and newer (pneumatic driven) CIWS mounts fire at a rate of 4,500 rounds per minute with a 1,550-round magazine. >>Shells fired by the Phalanx cost around $30 each and the gun typically fires 100 or more when engaging a target.[14] >So it's about three grand to zap one drone, and you get 15 shootdowns before a human needs to shovel more ammo into the turret.…
> shells fired by the Phalanx cost around $30 each
That's pretty crazy to think of ... I guess the only justification for that is that the assets that are protected by such a system are worth more than that.
> You could imagine firing fewer rounds per salvo
If I learned anything from games, it's that you want AoE damage for swarming enemies ;-)
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#69These drones are used for light shows. I'm guessing they tried to run the show too long. It looks like they all start attempting to land before their batteries run out, around the same time...
> It looks like they all start attempting to land before their batteries run out, around the same time... That doesn’t immediately sound very plausible to me (as a layman who’s never dealt with drones but has dealt with battery-powered devices): I can’t imagine auto-power-down being based on flight time: surely it would be driven by battery voltage measurements, since batteries vary somewhat to begin with and vary a…
> I then wouldn’t expect such homogeneity of battery lives that they would all drop out of the sky in such a short range of time.
Well, they have all been doing a synchronised routine. Presumably they were purchased as a batch, and operated together.
And if these were mini-drones that only had a 10 minute battery life to begin with? I could believe they'd all run flat within 60 seconds of one another.
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Okay I don't care if my account gets banned but why in the FUCK does everything about China has to do with the government? Everyone here and on Reddit are bitching about Chinese propaganda bots but the only thing I see is people with new accounts attacking China and an immediate accusation of shilling to anyone who doesn't criticize China or even draws a parallel between whatever is being criticized and the U.S.. Ser…
It's not brainwashing to suspect s government are up to no good. I'm in the west and assume that my government is up to no good at times, but at least we have a free media which keeps it in check. That the CCP are a dangerous bunch of authoritarian control freaks really should not be that much of a stretch.
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