Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 131 posts

Re: Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou

#41

Post by baybal2 »

curiousgal wrote: post #17
LurkingPenguin wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In China, both are equally probable.

Okay I don't care if my account gets banned but why in the FUCK does everything about China has to do with the government? Everyone here and on Reddit are bitching about Chinese propaganda bots but the only thing I see is people with new accounts attacking China and an immediate accusation of shilling to anyone who doesn't criticize China or even draws a parallel between whatever is being criticized and the U.S.. Ser…

> Okay I don't care if my account gets banned but why in the FUCK does everything about China has to do with the government?

Because very likely it really is.

Re: Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou

#42

Post by drfxyjhdyfrhgc »

yojo wrote: post #35
seoulmetro wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's not a reasonable expectation. Unless you believe that setting regulatory clauses in doing business as "de facto" control. But then so does any business. Much like every other nation on Earth, the government will seek to take a hand in the largest businesses operating in their jurisdiction. "Expecting" the Chinese government to control every business in China is very dystopian and baseless. They couldn'…

My understanding is there has been a large push to have communist party members have a formal and active role in businesses. The economist had a nice article on this: https://archive.is/HGX2L This is at the very least much more explicit than the control political parties in the US exert over businesses.

In the US, "human resources" is a misnomer for a corporate department that ensures regime compliance. Thankfully, most policies exist for the sake of worker's and minority's rights.

Re: Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou

#43

Post by seoulmetro »

yojo wrote: post #35
seoulmetro wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's not a reasonable expectation. Unless you believe that setting regulatory clauses in doing business as "de facto" control. But then so does any business. Much like every other nation on Earth, the government will seek to take a hand in the largest businesses operating in their jurisdiction. "Expecting" the Chinese government to control every business in China is very dystopian and baseless. They couldn'…

My understanding is there has been a large push to have communist party members have a formal and active role in businesses. The economist had a nice article on this: https://archive.is/HGX2L This is at the very least much more explicit than the control political parties in the US exert over businesses.

Being explicit in your doings is not necessarily evil. Governments frequently push to control everything that they think might benefit themselves. China just has everyone's balls in a vice and so can do it publicly.

But yeah. I'm only here to say that equating control of giants to be very different to control of everyone.

Re: Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou

#44

Post by resist_futility »

narrator wrote: post #33

For those who like drone dystopia nightmare fuel, this video made me think of this disturbing modern weapon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STM_Kargu :/

Sci-Fi Short Film “Slaughterbots” | DUST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2tpwW0kmU

Re: Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou

#46

Post by celticninja »

curiousgal wrote: post #17
LurkingPenguin wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In China, both are equally probable.

Okay I don't care if my account gets banned but why in the FUCK does everything about China has to do with the government? Everyone here and on Reddit are bitching about Chinese propaganda bots but the only thing I see is people with new accounts attacking China and an immediate accusation of shilling to anyone who doesn't criticize China or even draws a parallel between whatever is being criticized and the U.S.. Ser…

It's not brainwashing to suspect s government are up to no good. I'm in the west and assume that my government is up to no good at times, but at least we have a free media which keeps it in check. That the CCP are a dangerous bunch of authoritarian control freaks really should not be that much of a stretch.

Re: Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou

#47

Post by chrismorgan »

winrid wrote: post #37

These drones are used for light shows. I'm guessing they tried to run the show too long. It looks like they all start attempting to land before their batteries run out, around the same time...

> It looks like they all start attempting to land before their batteries run out, around the same time...

That doesn’t immediately sound very plausible to me (as a layman who’s never dealt with drones but has dealt with battery-powered devices): I can’t imagine auto-power-down being based on flight time: surely it would be driven by battery voltage measurements, since batteries vary somewhat to begin with and vary a lot more as they age; and I then wouldn’t expect such homogeneity of battery lives that they would all drop out of the sky in such a short range of time.

You could say that their not all behaving in the same way at the same time supports the idea of low-battery emergency landing, but I think that could be adequately explained by network congestion effects too, which could line up with the claim of an attack if such an attack were some sort of frequency jamming or network saturation thing (I don’t know what wireless systems such drones use).

(The second video, “another view”, is much more interesting than the first, showing the constellation going from full strength to about two dozen left 30 seconds later, with another dozen subsequently failing very close to simultaneously in the last second of the video—I wish the video had gone for even two seconds more.)

Re: Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou

#48

Post by toxik »

narrator wrote: post #33

For those who like drone dystopia nightmare fuel, this video made me think of this disturbing modern weapon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STM_Kargu :/

> these drones were initially designed as an airborne sentry or surveillance tool.

So probably developed in part by people who had no idea they were building weapons.

Re: Drones Raining from the Sky in Zhengzhou

#49

Post by anotheryou »

winrid wrote: post #37

These drones are used for light shows. I'm guessing they tried to run the show too long. It looks like they all start attempting to land before their batteries run out, around the same time...

Alternatively a wrong ground height set. They do move at different speeds between their way points.

The one at 0:25 is seriously out of juice or didn't expect the ground where it is.

edit: looks like they really just run out of juice: https://twitter.com/pitdesi/status/1445119043199913990

Post reply on HN