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iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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jiggawatts wrote: post #62
account-5 wrote: post #30

Yet more reasons why I won't give apple any of my money. I can only see one benefit of this to the consumer. If you maybe happen to be a target of some spy agency who manage to get your phone and need to drop some component into it to spy on you, that isnt going to be easy now. /s Genuinely no need for this other than making apple more money.

Would you rather give your money to Google, the company that is what it is today through turning their users' information into products to sell to the highest bidder? Apple gives a shit about your privacy. Why is that upsetting to you?

I give my money to whatever company who provides devices I'm in control of. As it stands that is Google, like it or not.

I take care of my own privacy, no for profit company cares about your privacy, you're kidding yourself if you think they are.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by shartacct »

franga2000 wrote: post #135
shartacct wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can. https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service/screen-repla... > The Apple Store and many of our Apple Authorized Service Providers offer same-day service for screen replacement. The pricing available here (for guaranteed new, genuine parts and labor) is actually cheaper than the cost of genuine replacement screens available on ebay at first glance, the first genuine iphone 11 screen I found on ebay that wa…

That's repair, not parts, and it's only screens, not any of the other many parts that often fail. Of course the pricing is lower than buying an ebay screen, because apple won't sell you a screen, so sellers on ebay have to procure them illegally. Again, a problem that apple iself created.

> That's repair, not parts

I'm aware. It doesn't really matter if the final repair service is cheaper than buying the part and doing it yourself and leaves a better, like new result rather than a repair job done by an amateur.

> and it's only screens, not any of the other many parts that often fail.

They repair any part of the phone that fails, screens were just the first example I found are trawling for a few seconds with google. Apple does cheap battery replacements and will swap motherboards too.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #134
shartacct wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean apple stores? They're everywhere that matter. That said, I still won't buy an iphone until they at least get rid of lightning. It's extreme ridiculous that apple would keep a proprietary connector after migrating the rest of their product stack over to usbc. I have a pixel 3 currently and will certainly never buy another android phone again, the biggest issues I've had don't exist on iphones at all, namely a…

The closest Appstore to me is ~2500km and over the border. Dozens of Millions of people here don't matter, apparently.

Well.. yeah? That's what happens when you allow organized crime to attack foreign businesses with impunity, encourage your citizens to murder gay and trans people, and destabilize every neighboring country by instigating false flagged 'civil' wars in them.

Of course, there are also important factors like the average worker being dirt poor. Who is buying an iphone on a 300-400USD/mo equivalent salary? It would take years and years of saving to afford one, or a choice to put yourself into hard to repay debt for a status symbol? I would imagine the average person there buys the cheapest phones possible and not the highest end name brand phones every few years like working and middle class westerners do.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by smoldesu »

fastball wrote: post #112
chmod775 wrote: post #73

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> where the cost when repaired by Apple is fairly reasonable. Careful, if Louis Rossmann reads that you may give him a sudden case of apoplexy. The only thing "fairly reasonable" about what Apple likes to charge is that you fairly reasonably may as well just buy a new phone.

I've broken iPhones around 10 times. Not a single time was the cost of repair even close to the cost of a new phone.

If I broke something 10 times in one decade, I'd probably be looking to replace it ASAP.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by franga2000 »

shartacct wrote: post #142
franga2000 wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's repair, not parts, and it's only screens, not any of the other many parts that often fail. Of course the pricing is lower than buying an ebay screen, because apple won't sell you a screen, so sellers on ebay have to procure them illegally. Again, a problem that apple iself created.

> That's repair, not parts I'm aware. It doesn't really matter if the final repair service is cheaper than buying the part and doing it yourself and leaves a better, like new result rather than a repair job done by an amateur. > and it's only screens, not any of the other many parts that often fail. They repair any part of the phone that fails, screens were just the first example I found are trawling for a few second…

Look up Louis Rossman on YouTube. There are many repairs that are trivial for a trained professional that Apple just refuses to do, nor do they provide parts for. Replace a single resistor and an "unfixable" MacBook works like new again.

The characterisation of third party repair as "amateurs" is one of Apple's creation (obviously not just them but all tech companies). Apple will wipe your data, send your phone to China and replace your mainboard at best. An actual repair technician will fix what's actually wrong right then and there and not touch what isn't - including data.

I completely understand that you don't want to fix your own device or even if you only ever want to deal with Apple, but that shouldn't be the only option.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

nicce wrote: post #138
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #131

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> They sell hundreds of millions of devices each year. A problem I haven’t seen discussed much — could Apple’s suppliers actually deliver enough parts for new phones and spare parts? Since they already sell hundreds of millions of devices a year, I'd say yes. Do you think that if demand for whole devices increased worldwide, Apple wouldn't be able to fulfill it?

> Do you think that if demand for whole devices increased worldwide, Apple wouldn't be able to fulfill it? They aren’t able, as the current situation is living proof from that. Note the ongoing chip/semiconductor crisis.

Sure, but this is recent and temporary, and caused in large part by a once-in-a-century pandemic.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by shartacct »

franga2000 wrote: post #145
shartacct wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's repair, not parts I'm aware. It doesn't really matter if the final repair service is cheaper than buying the part and doing it yourself and leaves a better, like new result rather than a repair job done by an amateur. > and it's only screens, not any of the other many parts that often fail. They repair any part of the phone that fails, screens were just the first example I found are trawling for a few second…

Look up Louis Rossman on YouTube. There are many repairs that are trivial for a trained professional that Apple just refuses to do, nor do they provide parts for. Replace a single resistor and an "unfixable" MacBook works like new again. The characterisation of third party repair as "amateurs" is one of Apple's creation (obviously not just them but all tech companies). Apple will wipe your data, send your phone to Ch…

> Look up Louis Rossman on YouTube. There are many repairs that are trivial for a trained professional that Apple just refuses to do, nor do they provide parts for. Replace a single resistor and an "unfixable" MacBook works like new again.

I know who louis is, and contrary to your opinion replacing random surface mount components until the machine turns back on is not a repair. Generally most of his work is not even for machines that spontaneously failed, it's all stuff that's water/beer/soda damaged that Apple turned away. He charges more to do those repairs and they generally don't hold, because it's impossible to remove all latent moisture and corrosion once a board is significantly damaged like that.

> The characterisation of third party repair as "amateurs" is one of Apple's creation (obviously not just them but all tech companies).

The context was the end user buying parts and repairing their machine themselves. How is that not amateur?

> Apple will wipe your data, send your phone to China and replace your mainboard at best. An actual repair technician will fix what's actually wrong right then and there and not touch what isn't - including data.

Apple themselves say they do same-day repair, so I'm not sure why you're overtly lying about that here.

> I completely understand that you don't want to fix your own device or even if you only ever want to deal with Apple, but that shouldn't be the only option.

???

I'm 100% pro repair, I'm just not getting the hate on apple for their practices. They are by far the most pro-repair company in the smartphone space (definitely NOT in the laptop space however, though their in-store battery replacements for macbooks are still cheaper than buying genuine oem batteries for thinkpads, I wish they would go back to socketed ram and ssds but that clearly isn't happening), and are the only actual company that offers in person same day repairs and mail in repairs for reasonable prices. If you want to get a pixel repaired you have to go to shady third party chain stores that are contracted by google, and usually all they will do is replace the screen and see if it works (even if the fault is completely unrelated, you can search for people's experiences with pixel 3s spontaneously bricking and find thousands of horrors stories).

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by nicce »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #146
nicce wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you think that if demand for whole devices increased worldwide, Apple wouldn't be able to fulfill it? They aren’t able, as the current situation is living proof from that. Note the ongoing chip/semiconductor crisis.

Sure, but this is recent and temporary, and caused in large part by a once-in-a-century pandemic.

It is not pandemic alone, otherwise we would have supply already. This problem has developed for years already[1].

And what about pandemic, because of it, supply chains were surprised with the demand of elecronics. So, they could not respond for the demand. And Apple would have had a limit anyway for chip manufacturing based on this.

[1] : https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58230388

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

shartacct wrote: post #143
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The closest Appstore to me is ~2500km and over the border. Dozens of Millions of people here don't matter, apparently.

Well.. yeah? That's what happens when you allow organized crime to attack foreign businesses with impunity, encourage your citizens to murder gay and trans people, and destabilize every neighboring country by instigating false flagged 'civil' wars in them. Of course, there are also important factors like the average worker being dirt poor. Who is buying an iphone on a 300-400USD/mo equivalent salary? It would take ye…

You should probably seek professional help.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

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Post by shartacct »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #149
shartacct wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well.. yeah? That's what happens when you allow organized crime to attack foreign businesses with impunity, encourage your citizens to murder gay and trans people, and destabilize every neighboring country by instigating false flagged 'civil' wars in them. Of course, there are also important factors like the average worker being dirt poor. Who is buying an iphone on a 300-400USD/mo equivalent salary? It would take ye…

You should probably seek professional help.

Were you expecting a different answer? Do you think anyone who tells you a hard truth should 'seek professional help'? I guess when you end up utterly defeated in your own country clinging to national fervor only to come and post snark on places like HN and still end up own-goaling yourself it must be hard to cope with, snark is all you have left :'(.
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