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#71

Pretty disingenuous for this guy not to mention the potential benefits of such measures, namely: iPhones become pretty much worthless on the black market, discouraging theft. I'm more worried about someone stealing my phone (where the cost is the whole value of the device) than I am about breaking the phone (usually my fault) where the cost when repaired by Apple is fairly reasonable.

Couldn't you just steal the complete phone, reset it, then resell it?

Unless the owner disabled Activation Lock you can’t reset it/reactivate it without the owner’s iCloud password.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually its just an side advantage but deep down our heart we know apple is doing this for their own benefit not for consumers. I agree with you that every parts must be substituted with genuine parts in case of component damage. I had tried to replace s6 battery and spent like $500 but alas I failed. After 4-5 month the battery gets swollen and the backcover gets damaged costing me more. So I had to dump it and I a…

I'm not sure if things have changed, but at least a few years ago, Apple prices for display replacements were really quite fair and far below Samsung, IIRC. Something like $ 150. I'd also be interested in some statistics on the frequency of display damage. With waterproofing and these new types of glasses, I wouldn't be surprised if they had come down rather drastically. I remember every phone I having a cracked disp…

Apple prices for display replacements were really quite fair and far below Samsung, IIRC. Something like $ 150.

150 bucks for display is fair .welcome to the matrix!

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

#73

Pretty disingenuous for this guy not to mention the potential benefits of such measures, namely: iPhones become pretty much worthless on the black market, discouraging theft. I'm more worried about someone stealing my phone (where the cost is the whole value of the device) than I am about breaking the phone (usually my fault) where the cost when repaired by Apple is fairly reasonable.

> where the cost when repaired by Apple is fairly reasonable.

Careful, if Louis Rossmann reads that you may give him a sudden case of apoplexy.

The only thing "fairly reasonable" about what Apple likes to charge is that you fairly reasonably may as well just buy a new phone.

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#74
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I have to defend Apple for these verification checks. I bought replacement display online and replaced it myself, after I was all done found the display was fake based on bad colors. It was old iPhone which didn't have fake component detection, I traded in that phone and now somebody else has iPhone with poor display. iPhones get used for longer period of time by multiple users and they carry high resale value, if th…

> I support right to repair, but ONLY with genuine parts with warranty. Why? Why can't I make that decision myself? If I'm fine with a cheaper display, why should apple disallow me from doing that? If they sold their spare parts in their own store, everyone could make the decision whether they want genuine or 3rd party replacement parts themselves. The phone could tell you when the part is not genuine, so you could g…

Because what is a personal optimum not always is a collective optimum. One of the things that I like on iPhones is their high resale value. A lot of iPhone users trade their old phones for new ones. I voluntarily choose for that by switching from Android to Apple.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

#75

Pretty disingenuous for this guy not to mention the potential benefits of such measures, namely: iPhones become pretty much worthless on the black market, discouraging theft. I'm more worried about someone stealing my phone (where the cost is the whole value of the device) than I am about breaking the phone (usually my fault) where the cost when repaired by Apple is fairly reasonable.

Why then does apple not offer to take these phones (without compensation) and refurb them to be resold, by Apple. This way there is no incentives for thieves as Apple will not give them a dime however these phones are not part of the huge trash pile that is being generated.

Not every trade is handled by Apple. A tiny minority outside of the US. And I dislike the idea that they can remotely make my phone unusable, like Samsung can.

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#76

Pretty disingenuous for this guy not to mention the potential benefits of such measures, namely: iPhones become pretty much worthless on the black market, discouraging theft. I'm more worried about someone stealing my phone (where the cost is the whole value of the device) than I am about breaking the phone (usually my fault) where the cost when repaired by Apple is fairly reasonable.

I think it's more disingenuous of Apple to hide behind that and use it as an excuse for everything they do. If they really care, they should allow owners to opt out of such features.

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#77

Am I the only one who is happy that Apple is taking away the right to repair? From my experience, almost all third party iPhone repair shops are filled with untrustworthy people who disregards their ethics for such a little money.

Right to repair is also your right to repair your own device.

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

#79

Paying a few hundred $ for a phone that lasts for just a couple of years never made sense in the first place. The amount of e-waste generated is insane, 'right to repair' and 'responsible use of capital and resources' go hand in hand. Phones could easily last a decade.

Realistically speaking 2 years for Android phones. For iPhones unless you’re a gamer they work quite well some 5 to 6 years

Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]

#80

So - if I followed that correctly the parts you can’t change are the front-camera assembly that includes faceID sensor, and the screen that includes the touch panel (that you use to enter passwords and PINs). I would assume Apple’s justification is that this is to meet security requirements, particularly given a phone is now commonly used for contactless payments.

The actual authentication & crypto is happening inside the main SOC. The Face ID sensor is (or should be) just a dumb camera - there's no reason for it to be part of the chain of trust.
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