I have another hypothesis also that this is done for security reasons. Imagine yo are at a risk of high-profile spying. You lose your phone and then it reappears somehow - you should no longer trust your phone if these security features weren't in place. Maybe, just maybe, it's one of the reasons Apple does this.
iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]
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#32I have to defend Apple for these verification checks. I bought replacement display online and replaced it myself, after I was all done found the display was fake based on bad colors. It was old iPhone which didn't have fake component detection, I traded in that phone and now somebody else has iPhone with poor display. iPhones get used for longer period of time by multiple users and they carry high resale value, if th…
This would be a non-issue if you could just buy the replacement screen (or any other part) from Apple or their manufacturers directly, no? Sure, it's nice if the phone can tell you that a part is non-genuine in case you got scammed, but the fact that this is even a problem is because Apple refuses to sell parts and makes repair even using genuine parts as difficult as possible. They created a problem, then "solved" it in a way that just so happens to force users to spend even more money at the fruit store. What a convenient coincidence...
Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]
#33I have to defend Apple for these verification checks. I bought replacement display online and replaced it myself, after I was all done found the display was fake based on bad colors. It was old iPhone which didn't have fake component detection, I traded in that phone and now somebody else has iPhone with poor display. iPhones get used for longer period of time by multiple users and they carry high resale value, if th…
Actually its just an side advantage but deep down our heart we know apple is doing this for their own benefit not for consumers. I agree with you that every parts must be substituted with genuine parts in case of component damage. I had tried to replace s6 battery and spent like $500 but alas I failed. After 4-5 month the battery gets swollen and the backcover gets damaged costing me more. So I had to dump it and I a…
I'm not sure if things have changed, but at least a few years ago, Apple prices for display replacements were really quite fair and far below Samsung, IIRC. Something like $ 150.
I'd also be interested in some statistics on the frequency of display damage. With waterproofing and these new types of glasses, I wouldn't be surprised if they had come down rather drastically. I remember every phone I having a cracked display after a year or so. But the last two generations, maybe 5 or six years, they've always survived.
Or maybe it's just my motor skills improving... But if I'm right and they are doing something like 70-80 % fewer display repairs, it becomes really hard to still assume they care very much about that revenue. There are plenty of reasons Apple would want to stop aftermarket parts, mostly of the sort you'll hear if the chef at a fancy restaurant sees the ketchup you brought from home.
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#34This is news? Everything Apple makes is a repair nightmare, that is their gimmick. You have to buy Applecare and you have to buy parts from them. That is the only way they can “innovate” — or so they have always claimed.
Can you actually buy parts from them? Everyone I've heard from pretty much tells the same story that Apple only provides a handful of parts and even then only to people who basically hand over the keys to their business to Apple.
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#35Every time an iphone is released we have to see this? I don't want to repair my phone. It's got a two year warranty, and after two years if it breaks I'll buy another.
Any chance you'd consider the out there idea that some people:
1. don't want to fill up landfills with 90%-functional devices that they're too lazy to have repaired
2. can't afford to spend more than a month's salary on a brand new but functionally identical device every two years
3. might have data that's important to them on the device that they want recovered.
Just because you wish to be a careless consumer doesn't mean that that's what everyone is and that we shouldn't put pressure on Apple to allow those that don't to use their devices as they wish.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually its just an side advantage but deep down our heart we know apple is doing this for their own benefit not for consumers. I agree with you that every parts must be substituted with genuine parts in case of component damage. I had tried to replace s6 battery and spent like $500 but alas I failed. After 4-5 month the battery gets swollen and the backcover gets damaged costing me more. So I had to dump it and I a…
So you bought counterfeit battery and then blame it on Samsung?
Yes, it's Samsung's fault that it's impossible to source genuine batteries.
Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]
#37I have to defend Apple for these verification checks. I bought replacement display online and replaced it myself, after I was all done found the display was fake based on bad colors. It was old iPhone which didn't have fake component detection, I traded in that phone and now somebody else has iPhone with poor display. iPhones get used for longer period of time by multiple users and they carry high resale value, if th…
There certainly is a way out of this: don't buy shitty replacements. You could still get your display replaced by a legit service before Apple introduced verifications. You might prefer that someone else takes care of your broken phone, but why'd you want to force that on everybody?
Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]
#38I have to defend Apple for these verification checks. I bought replacement display online and replaced it myself, after I was all done found the display was fake based on bad colors. It was old iPhone which didn't have fake component detection, I traded in that phone and now somebody else has iPhone with poor display. iPhones get used for longer period of time by multiple users and they carry high resale value, if th…
Except Apple also disables functionality if you replace the part with another genuine part from another iPhone.
The only excuse is money, money, money.
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#39Meh, people will not get tired of this it seems. What did the eternal repeating of this ever net you? A tentative promise that they will support the right to repair movement, one they are not obligated to fulfill, and of course it’s always in the future. That’s the best you could hope for with such naive activism. Anecdotal evidence: out of 20+ people with iPhones I know, only one ever had to send it for repairs. In…
Was this sent to Apple? No, it was posted to a public forum. This isn't about begging Apple to change, it's about informing people that Apple should change. The more people care about this, the more pressure it puts on both Apple and legislators to make this happen. We've seen it happen with car parts years ago.
Of course Apple doesn't care about what people say. They care about how much money people give them and how much politicians take away. And neither of those will change without talking about it first.
Re: iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video]
#40I have another hypothesis also that this is done for security reasons. Imagine yo are at a risk of high-profile spying. You lose your phone and then it reappears somehow - you should no longer trust your phone if these security features weren't in place. Maybe, just maybe, it's one of the reasons Apple does this.
>I have another hypothesis also that this is done for security reasons.
It always boggled my mind how much mental gymnastics, the supposedly tech-savy HN userbase is willing to do, to defend their favorite computer brand's anti-repair and anti-consumer practices as "security".
Let me break down your argument:
Firstly, if you're at risk of high profile spying, you should know better than to use any Apple/Google/Microsoft products as all those megacorps are in bed with the US three letter alphabet agencies.
Secondly, if you're a high profile target for spying, but dumb enough to use an iPhone as your daily driver, then the alphabet boys or nation states worldwide are more likely to use some of the dozens of iOS RCE exploits they developed themselves or bought from some shady Israeli security company or off the black market to get to you rather than go through all the trouble of hoping you don't notice when they steal your phone and replace your screen.
Thirdly, say nation state actors do manage to steal your phone and swap the screen really quickly before you notice, but how will they make sure it has the same level of wear and tear (cracks, scratches) that you won't recognize it to be different?
There's just so many plot holes in this type of scenario that security cannot be justified as an argument here.
Plus, if Apple really cared about security, then their bug bounty program wouldn't be such a horrible mess full of unacknowledged vulnerabilities that researchers need to take public.