I don't understand why this (and all the rest) is not driving people back to Firefox. Are we really going to wait for Mozilla to die, and then lament that Google has taken over the web?
I deleted Chrome on mobile, I use Safari 100% now.
Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
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Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#242I have a stupid idea. But first, a bunch of questions: - Can you legally advertise a product you're not affiliated with? Is this OK by the ToS of major ad networks? - Is it possible to target ads by user's browser? I'm thinking, maybe we should crowdfund a public interest ad, targeted at people browsing from Chrome, with some attention-grabbing art or distracting colors, and a clear message: "Want to stop seeing this…
Make this happen and I am going to do my best to publicize this. On the other hand, chrome is making it increasingly tough to use any other browser by sheer intuitive and useful features. Grouping tabs for eg. I know other would do it one day. But there is a lag. I wonder why other browsers (OSS) do not straight up copy any good features and release. Assuming there is good enough dev resources. Or is it really that h…
Firefox has the Simple Tab Groups extension, which works with containers. Chrome not only doesn't have containers, but its tab grouping is clunky and featureless in comparison.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
How so? From what I've read, the whole point of the declarative API is to tell the browser what you want done so that it can do it without letting the extension actually touch any data. If this doesn't work, then there's no point to the new API.
That's why it is pure bs at first place. The webrequest api didn't got removed completely, only the part for modify/block request. Only ad blockers will stole your data and others that logs them however they want will log them nicely? What world are Google's team lives in? Are we even on the same time line?
Can you confirm the new declarative APIs work as intended? Maybe they do restrict extensions. I agree that it's pointless if they don't remove the older APIs.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's not like Firefox is a bad browser. compared to chrome, firefox no longer has an edge. Chrome's restrictive addons is what made firefox stronger. But ever since firefox removed the old XUL style addons, their utility has drastically dropped against chrome. I was very angry at their poor choice, as some really excellent, but unmaintained addons no longer work. I put up with firefox, just so i can give them some…
I also hate they had to kill XUL addons, but they had good reasons to do so: https://yoric.github.io/post/why-did-mozilla-remove-xul-addo...
But it's been years now and Mozilla's only solution is to switch to nightly.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it'll drive people away from Chrome and nip what's looking increasingly like a monopoly in the bud by driving users to browsers that do support ad blocking I certainly hope so. I showed Firefox and uBlock Origin to all my friends and they loved it, especially the fact it blocks YouTube ads. Lots of people simply don't know about this.
Yeah, I don't really do "tech support" for family members any more because I've not used Windows in such a long time I'm pretty useless at troubleshooting it, but I do take the time to install Firefox and ad blockers on it which is worthwhile even if you don't have an issue with the adtech industry because it reduces the attack surface for malware.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see the point in using an ad blocker but running Chrome. It's not like Google would allow the ad blocker to filter their own tracking. Sadly, the only option seems to be Firefox and the niche browsers.
Ad blockers on Chrome block Google's ads too. The ad script doesn't even run, so it's not getting as far as collecting any data. (I work on ads at Google, speaking only for myself)
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#247Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mozilla's main source of revenue has always been the money Google gives them to have Google as the default search engine. They could stop this at any time to effectively kill Mozilla. So, why haven't they? Because there's this case called United States v. Microsoft Corporation that deals with this very issue of browser monopolies. Now usually a lawsuit wouldn't mean dick to Google because they already have a litany o…
I still don't know wtf is Pocket supposed to be doing.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#249As someone who is intimately familiar with the Chrome extensions internals and is not employed by a big tech company, I believe most of the changes seem like a step in the right direction.* I've been working towards implementing greater support for Chrome extensions in Electron which has involved reading and interacting with Chromium code [0]. - Using service workers instead of a hidden background webpage is more idi…
This is fair. For an ad-blocker to be effective today it needs to be invasive, and that doesn't apply to most extensions.
It is too easy to grant invasive privileges to v2 extensions for those that do not understand the consequences. Downloading a whole new browser on the other hand is a far more obvious way of implicitly granting that trust... So I wonder if when push comes to shove, a "uBlocked-Chrome" browser might emerge. To be clear, I am suggesting a uBlock integration project, not a preservation of V2 for extensions.
Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow
#250I don't understand why this (and all the rest) is not driving people back to Firefox. Are we really going to wait for Mozilla to die, and then lament that Google has taken over the web?