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Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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I don't see the point in using an ad blocker but running Chrome. It's not like Google would allow the ad blocker to filter their own tracking. Sadly, the only option seems to be Firefox and the niche browsers.

Ad blockers on Chrome block Google's ads too. The ad script doesn't even run, so it's not getting as far as collecting any data. (I work on ads at Google, speaking only for myself)

I wasn't talking about the ads, but lower level tracking.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Didn't Mozilla fire their devtools team ? FF devtools weren't up to Chrome as-is, and doesn't sound like they ever will be. FF seems like a sinking ship, not worth investing time in. TBH I'm perfectly happy with Chrome and using Google accounts. The benefits of my data following me around seamlessly far outweighs the downsides of Google having access to it.

Firefox also fired their security team.

Really? Have any news regarding this?

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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I'm not sure how you can be certain of this

Mozilla's main source of revenue has always been the money Google gives them to have Google as the default search engine. They could stop this at any time to effectively kill Mozilla. So, why haven't they? Because there's this case called United States v. Microsoft Corporation that deals with this very issue of browser monopolies. Now usually a lawsuit wouldn't mean dick to Google because they already have a litany o…

I still don't know wtf is Pocket supposed to be doing.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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This will not cause Chrome to lose market share, it is in fact the exact opposite. The move is _required_ for market share. Castrating extensions prevents average Joe from shooting himself in the foot. It is easy for us to forget how bad most non IT people are with these things. It's OK to have browsers aimed at different markets. I will continue to use Firefox but will not push it to my aging parents for example. I…

Would you like to have random companies tracking your grandma wherever she goes, because of the GPS that's now in every family car? Would you like supermarkets real-time adjust (=increase by 2ct) the prices on products your grandma usually buys, based on when your grandma's family car is taking the "I'm going shopping" route?

I know all these arguments, that is why I use FF with ad and script blockers.

But my grandma would fall prey to mallware addons before the issues you described.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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As I said, I was bitten twice. It's hard to even try now. Back then I try for a few week before committing, but when I move my session (of 200+ tabs) onto Firefox, it's dead. And back then I was told the exact same thing I was told this time, too.

FWIW, I have 3668 tabs open in Firefox right now. Looks like it's using about 1.6GB of RAM. (Notes: most of those thousands of tabs are unloaded, I block JavaScript rather aggressively, and yes I do recognize the absurdity but I confess my sins here to illustrate my point!) I have no experience migrating from Chrome to Firefox, but FF can certainly handle lots of tabs. Vertical tab layouts are very helpful for naviga…

Your use case is covered by Firefox, its called Bookmarks.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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well, at least this one ad would be true, and hopefully, those who would otherwise have clicked on that shady "web-accelerator" ad would've instead been saved by this one!

if there was one Nigerian prince who transferred 1 million dollars to a person's account that would set a bad precedent for all the gullible folks out there.

I am not sure, if that would change anything as reality is clearly perceived different with some people.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Would you like to have random companies tracking your grandma wherever she goes, because of the GPS that's now in every family car? Would you like supermarkets real-time adjust (=increase by 2ct) the prices on products your grandma usually buys, based on when your grandma's family car is taking the "I'm going shopping" route?

I know all these arguments, that is why I use FF with ad and script blockers. But my grandma would fall prey to mallware addons before the issues you described.

Also, grandmas are not idiots. She knows enough to compare prices.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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Google is first and foremost an advertising company, it's in their interest to hobble ad blockers as much as possible. Personally I'm hoping that they do, because it'll drive people away from Chrome and nip what's looking increasingly like a monopoly in the bud by driving users to browsers that do support ad blocking.

> it'll drive people away from Chrome and nip what's looking increasingly like a monopoly in the bud by driving users to browsers that do support ad blocking I certainly hope so. I showed Firefox and uBlock Origin to all my friends and they loved it, especially the fact it blocks YouTube ads. Lots of people simply don't know about this.

Yeah, I don't really do "tech support" for family members any more because I've not used Windows in such a long time I'm pretty useless at troubleshooting it, but I do take the time to install Firefox and ad blockers on it which is worthwhile even if you don't have an issue with the adtech industry because it reduces the attack surface for malware.

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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I don't understand why this (and all the rest) is not driving people back to Firefox. Are we really going to wait for Mozilla to die, and then lament that Google has taken over the web?

Most likely because if Mozilla follows recent patterns they will simply adopt these new rules as they try their level best to be a chrome clone

Re: Google sets burial date for legacy Chrome Extensions, fears for ad-blockers grow

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I'm not sure how you can be certain of this

Mozilla's main source of revenue has always been the money Google gives them to have Google as the default search engine. They could stop this at any time to effectively kill Mozilla. So, why haven't they? Because there's this case called United States v. Microsoft Corporation that deals with this very issue of browser monopolies. Now usually a lawsuit wouldn't mean dick to Google because they already have a litany o…

>Mozilla's main source of revenue has always been the money Google

There was a few years there they got off google in favor of Yahoo Money.

Then Yahoo mismanagement imploded that company and back to google they went

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