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Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Post by fit2rule »

thepasswordis wrote: post #19
hktntbvuvu wrote: post #5

While we are at it, is Biden going to pardon Snowden?

Joe Biden had an innocent father and his 7 children killed as a way of distracting from his horrible, disinterested withdrawal from Afghanistan. He has yet to acknowledge this in any way other than calling it an “mistake” via his press bureau. He has spent his life lying about his credentials, and then selling the influence he gains in the us government to foreign countries. No, I don’t think Biden will be pardoning…

Bidens' cult of personality is not going to be kind to you, sir.

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

jeroenhd wrote: post #25
hktntbvuvu wrote: post #5

While we are at it, is Biden going to pardon Snowden?

As an outsider, I don't expect the American government to ever pardon people like him. Presidents come and go but they all play nicely with the military powers that remain after their terms. When presidents promise to do things the rest it the government doesn't like, those promises only get broken. Trump didn't complete his wall, Obama didn't close Guantanamo Bay, and so on. Presidents aren't kings, their actions wi…

I wouldn't count on Biden administration to do anything remotely close. The whistleblower of the drone strike that killed 7 kids and 3 adults, all innocent, was convicted [1].

[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/leaker-of-drone-secrets-ge...

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Post by appleflaxen »

jeroenhd wrote: post #25
hktntbvuvu wrote: post #5

While we are at it, is Biden going to pardon Snowden?

As an outsider, I don't expect the American government to ever pardon people like him. Presidents come and go but they all play nicely with the military powers that remain after their terms. When presidents promise to do things the rest it the government doesn't like, those promises only get broken. Trump didn't complete his wall, Obama didn't close Guantanamo Bay, and so on. Presidents aren't kings, their actions wi…

Didn't deep throat get a pardon?

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Post by sonotathrowaway »

vorpalhex wrote: post #26
throwawayay02 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the worst case scenario of Assange being a free man, exactly?

That Assange is indeed compromised by foreign intelligence but is still able to receive exfiltrated American intelligence.

You’re unfortunately being downvoted because you are not toeing the HN crowd line that Assange is a hero. But the plain truth is he took a TV deal (bribe) from Russian state media[0] in exchange for suppressing whistleblowers leaking Russian involvement in Syria[1], and doesn’t even bother to deny that he’s been coopted by Putin[2] when confronted. He is very motivated to leak as much damaging information he can on America, but will censor and threaten those who want to bring his radical transparency on Russian oligarchs.

[0] https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/... [1] https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikileaks-syria-files-syria-r... [2] https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/i...

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Post by 1cvmask »

codedokode wrote: post #23

> Some senior officials inside the CIA and the Trump administration even discussed killing Assange, going so far as to request “sketches” or “options” for how to assassinate him. > One of those officials said he was briefed on a spring 2017 meeting in which the president asked whether the CIA could assassinate Assange and provide him “options” for how to do so. I don't understand how this can be legal. Cannot such a…

There is a fancy name for kill lists:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Post by busterarm »

ch4s3 wrote: post #22
thepasswordis wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Joe Biden had an innocent father and his 7 children killed as a way of distracting from his horrible, disinterested withdrawal from Afghanistan. He has yet to acknowledge this in any way other than calling it an “mistake” via his press bureau. He has spent his life lying about his credentials, and then selling the influence he gains in the us government to foreign countries. No, I don’t think Biden will be pardoning…

Don't forget that he wrote the bill that became the Patriot Act.

and most of the War on Drugs...

He might just be the most loathsome human being we've ever elected President. Although McCain would have been worse had he ever made it.

In fact, Biden and McCain have always been my go-to examples of the worst that America has to offer and like cockroaches they always managed to hang on.

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Post by busterarm »

beebeepka wrote: post #13
willcipriano wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honorable people do the right thing even when they personally do not benefit.

Honourable? This guy sent helicopters full of swat teams to arrest a single guy - Kim Dotcom. The whole thing was super illegal and almost hilariously over the top. "Almost" because there was nothing amusing about the whole thing. It was ugly

Honorable, no. Funny, yes. Deserved, certainly.

Let's not forget that Kim Dotcom is a miserable piece of shit who rats on his friends and used his position of trust to snoop through people's data and then snitch to governments and criminals for profit.

Not enough people know his real history but the guy is a pure scumbag, credit card fraud criminal and con artist masquerading as freedom-loving CEO.

He's exactly the kind of person that should be thrown in a hole somewhere and not heard from again and if you knew anything about him you would do it if you could.

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Post by [deleted] »

sonotathrowaway wrote: post #34
vorpalhex wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Assange is indeed compromised by foreign intelligence but is still able to receive exfiltrated American intelligence.

You’re unfortunately being downvoted because you are not toeing the HN crowd line that Assange is a hero. But the plain truth is he took a TV deal (bribe) from Russian state media[0] in exchange for suppressing whistleblowers leaking Russian involvement in Syria[1], and doesn’t even bother to deny that he’s been coopted by Putin[2] when confronted. He is very motivated to leak as much damaging information he can on A…

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Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Post by comrh »

appleflaxen wrote: post #33
jeroenhd wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an outsider, I don't expect the American government to ever pardon people like him. Presidents come and go but they all play nicely with the military powers that remain after their terms. When presidents promise to do things the rest it the government doesn't like, those promises only get broken. Trump didn't complete his wall, Obama didn't close Guantanamo Bay, and so on. Presidents aren't kings, their actions wi…

Didn't deep throat get a pardon?

Reagan did in 1981
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