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Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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While we are at it, is Biden going to pardon Snowden?

What possible advantage would there be in doing so? Biden would gain nothing but criticism, be accused of supporting a traitor and so on. Doing the right thing is rarely politically sensible.

Honorable people do the right thing even when they personally do not benefit.

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What possible advantage would there be in doing so? Biden would gain nothing but criticism, be accused of supporting a traitor and so on. Doing the right thing is rarely politically sensible.

Honorable people do the right thing even when they personally do not benefit.

Then the answer is no. It’s almost a tautology that career politicians are not honorable.

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What possible advantage would there be in doing so? Biden would gain nothing but criticism, be accused of supporting a traitor and so on. Doing the right thing is rarely politically sensible.

Honorable people do the right thing even when they personally do not benefit.

Honourable?

This guy sent helicopters full of swat teams to arrest a single guy - Kim Dotcom. The whole thing was super illegal and almost hilariously over the top. "Almost" because there was nothing amusing about the whole thing. It was ugly

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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It would be almost negligent to not draft and forecast the scenario. Intelligence work has to operate from worst case assumptions. Obviously the plan was never executed. I am sure that was a choice based on risk factors and not just professional ethics.

What is the worst case scenario of Assange being a free man, exactly?

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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post #6

While we are at it, is Biden going to pardon Snowden?

What possible advantage would there be in doing so? Biden would gain nothing but criticism, be accused of supporting a traitor and so on. Doing the right thing is rarely politically sensible.

Traitor? Was he ever a US citizen?

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What possible advantage would there be in doing so? Biden would gain nothing but criticism, be accused of supporting a traitor and so on. Doing the right thing is rarely politically sensible.

Traitor? Was he ever a US citizen?

Snowden yes. Are you confusing Assange with Snowden?

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What possible advantage would there be in doing so? Biden would gain nothing but criticism, be accused of supporting a traitor and so on. Doing the right thing is rarely politically sensible.

Traitor? Was he ever a US citizen?

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Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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It would be almost negligent to not draft and forecast the scenario. Intelligence work has to operate from worst case assumptions. Obviously the plan was never executed. I am sure that was a choice based on risk factors and not just professional ethics.

What is the worst case scenario of Assange being a free man, exactly?

Signalling that you can get away leaking embarrassing secrets to the outside world, mostly. I'd reckon there'd be a lot more Snowdens, Assanges and Mannings out there if the American government didn't grossly abuse its power to make their lives a living hell.

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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While we are at it, is Biden going to pardon Snowden?

Joe Biden had an innocent father and his 7 children killed as a way of distracting from his horrible, disinterested withdrawal from Afghanistan. He has yet to acknowledge this in any way other than calling it an “mistake” via his press bureau.

He has spent his life lying about his credentials, and then selling the influence he gains in the us government to foreign countries.

No, I don’t think Biden will be pardoning Edward Snowden.

Drone strike: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/us/politics/pentagon-dron...

Disinterested: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/25/fac...

Joes plagiarism: https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/us/biden-admits-plagiaris...

More lying about law school credentials: https://apnews.com/article/cd977f7ff301993f7976974ba07c5495

Selling influence: https://news.yahoo.com/independent-source-confirms-authentic...

Re: Former U.S. officials describe details of the CIA’s proposals to abduct Assange

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traitor? Was he ever a US citizen?

Snowden yes. Are you confusing Assange with Snowden?

Yes, misread the OP and thought we were talking about wikileaks and assange as that was the article too.
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